422: All-Natural Hand Sanitizer Against Coronavirus

Faith Flatt And Ashley James


  • How Hand Sanitizer + Skin Conditioner was created
  • All-natural hand sanitizer as the first line of defense against coronavirus
  • Safe ingredients without synthetic fillers

Proper Handwashing is one of the primary defenses against COVID-19, but what if you’re out and about and can’t wash your hands right away? In this episode, Faith Flatt shares with us the hand sanitizer that they formulated that doesn’t only kill coronavirus and germs, but it also conditions the skin.

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[0:00:00] Ashley James: Welcome to the Learn True Health podcast. I’m your host, Ashley James. This is episode 422. I am so excited for today's guest. We have on the show Faith Flatt who is the Head of Merchandising of a US-based company that normally produces all-natural pain creams, but since COVID-19, they formulated a hand sanitizer. Because let's be honest, I cannot find any hand sanitizer anywhere. I've been to every store, even online. It is all sold out, or they jacked up the prices on eBay and Amazon. People on OfferUp are making homemade sanitizer, I mean it is crazy right now. When I found out that one of my favorite all-natural pain cream companies had formulated an all-natural hand sanitizer that kills—what is it like 99.9% of germs?

[0:01:12] Faith Flatt: Yes, it does.

[0:01:15] Ashley James: Not only that because we could all just douse ourselves in alcohol, which would just dry out our skin, make it crack, and bleed, and then we'd be more susceptible to germs. You guys produced a hand sanitizer that actually conditions the skin and moisturizes the skin leaving it protected on many levels. You guys are producing 30,000 units a day so that people who are like me in hot spots—I'm just outside the Seattle area where there is zero hand sanitizer available in any store—that I can gain access to hand sanitizer.

This is so important because yes, of course, we should all wash our hands, but when we go grocery shopping, we’re constantly touching things. We want to just have that extra level of protection for ourselves, and our family, and our loved ones—who are elderly and more susceptible—by immediately using hand sanitizer so we don't bring a potential virus home with us and infect someone who could potentially die.

So a little bottle of hand sanitizer can save a life at this point. Your company is providing these all-natural hand sanitizers. So that's why I'm very excited. I'm excited to have you on the show to tell us about this hand sanitizer. Listeners can go to learntruehealth.com/hand to buy some right now. When you go to learntruehealth.com/hand, it gives you the ability to also get some discounts by buying in bulk or buying a whole pack of them. If you use coupon code LTH you also get a gift, so that's great.

I want to hear more about what's in the hand sanitizer, why is it that it's natural and that it actually conditions the skin? Because when I use it—I have it, I'm holding it right now. My son who has really sensitive skin—I'm going to put some of my hand right now so I can just describe the sensation because it feels like I just put cream. I can smell the alcohol because, of course, there's 70% alcohol in this, but it doesn't feel like I put alcohol on my skin. It doesn't feel like all those other hand sanitizers. It actually just feels like I just rubbed cream on my hands. My hands feel moisturized, and smooth, and soft. I want to know why is it that your hand sanitizer is the bomb, first of all. So we're going to talk about that, but first, is Tim your father-in-law?

[0:03:52] Faith Flatt: Yeah. This is a family business, and he's my father-in-law.

[0:03:56] Ashley James: Right. I had Tim on the show—I don't know, maybe about a year ago—to talk about Real Time Pain Relief—your company—and the natural pain creams, and their benefits, and the amazing stories of success of people actually reducing pain medications because of how effective your pain cream is. When listeners go to learntruehealth.com/hand, they'll also be able to see your other products—if they'd like to try your pain creams. Right now, the focus is on the hand sanitizer, which is really exciting. Tell us a little bit about you and your story. We heard about Tim's story, Tim being one of the founders of Real Time Pain Relief. Tell us a little bit about you and how you got into working with Real Time Pain Relief and the history of your family-based company.

[0:04:50] Faith Flatt: Well, with all family businesses if it's something that people are passionate about, everyone in the family kind of gets sucked into it, into the vortex. The Flatt family and their business partner Ron Snodgrass—the Snodgrass family—are just very consumed and passionate about helping people with topical pain relief. I married into the family about a decade ago, but even before I married in, this was a passion project for them. They were really focused on making sure that people had better alternatives to pain relief.

So about 20 years ago, Real Time Pain Relief introduced their first pain relief formula, and it was developed with the pain relief habits of their children and their sports teams in mind. Pretty soon, they found out that it wasn't just children and their sports teams that were needing a better alternative to pain relief. Everyone really needed an alternative to popping OTC pain pills as if they were harmless. That was very concerning to the Real Time Pain Relief family. Soon we found that parents, grandparents, they were some of our more predominant users of the Real Time Pain Relief formulas, and that was how a company was born and a business was built.

One of the founding pieces of Real Time Pain Relief and our commitment to our customer base from then and to this day is that all of our formulas would be rich in nature's ingredients and that we would always steer clear of the synthetic fillers that are in most of the formulas that you're going to find on OTC shelves inside of stores. So parabens, SLS, artificial dyes, NSAIDS, acetaminophen, all of the Real Time Pain Relief formulas steer clear of that.

For me personally, getting to step into the family business, I have gone out to so many farmers markets, and state fairs, and eventually Boston Marathon, New York City Marathon, just places where we would go and personally sample the formulas that Real Time Pain Relief carries. It's so fun to watch—through the years in the last decade that I've been involved—how the consumers out there are becoming more conscious, and how you'll even have younger people much more interested in alternatives that are good for them.

So for me personally, getting to work in the merchandising and helping to communicate all of the wonderful features of the Real Time Pain Relief formulas and now our new hand sanitizer is really meaningful and very enjoyable part of my family life.

[0:07:38] Ashley James: Absolutely. Yeah, I'm looking at the bottle, no parabens, no SLS, no artificial dyes, and no fragrances. You guys decided not to even put essential oils in here. Someone could just add essential oils—a few drops to their hand if they want to, but there is some chamomile in here. Like I said, when you put it on I briefly smell the alcohol. Now it's been a few minutes, I'm smelling the hand, I don't smell anything. It's very, very, very faint if anything, but my hand feels very soft like I just got a hand treatment. 

There's something about this that is very—it says it's a hand conditioner. There's not even a better word than hand—it's not a moisturizer. It really conditions the skin. It left my skin feeling very moist, it's not cracked anymore because my hand was getting dried out from all the other alcohol-based hand sanitizers. I'm really enjoying it. I think I mentioned this but my five-year-old—who has sensitive skin—doesn't react to your hand sanitizer, so that's really exciting that some people with sensitive skin would also be confident using your hand sanitizer.

Then, of course, you have a hand treatment in addition to this they could get if they have really, really dry skin. We need to protect our skin right now more than ever. It's our first line of defense when it comes to our immune system because it keeps germs out, but if there're any cracks in your skin—even if your cuticles are cracked—that's a potential for where the viruses can get in. We just want to protect your skin as much as possible. Obviously, sanitize it and then moisturize it. That's why I really like this stuff. When did you guys develop the hand sanitizer? Was this years in the making or did you guys just see the need and jump on it?

[0:09:42] Faith Flatt: We work with a wonderful chemist, and we have access to wonderful ingredients from nature. We have—in the past—dabbled with hand sanitizer, but it wasn't really an essential like it is right now. It wasn't the commodity that it's become, so it was never a part of our permanent product line. We had the ability to very quickly adjust to what the market was needing, and we realized very quickly that our customer base was in need of this essential. If we could make it available to them that that was what we wanted to do. 

While we normally spend many years developing a formula, we developed this one and brought it to market within about a week and a half. That was about three weeks ago, so it was a very quick turnaround time as the crisis began to really unfold and make hand sanitizer, like you said, really a first line of defense that everyone needs.

If you're at home it's nice when you can just wash your hands with an antibacterial soap, but almost everyone still has to go out to get groceries and things like that right now. If you leave the house without a hand sanitizer you're really walking out unarmed. So realizing that, our customers—who because of the way our product was founded and the ideas behind our product—that basically if you are a Real Time Pain Relief customer you're a member of the family. Our formulas were formulated for family at the beginning. As our customer base has grown, we've always just felt anyone who was turning to our formulas was someone that we considered family. So if our family members all across the US we're doing without hand sanitizer, we wanted to make this first line of defense available to them.

All of those nourishing ingredients that you're talking about in the formula and that feeling you get afterward is very intentional. Certainly, it makes it more fun to use the formula if it doesn't leave you cracked and dried out at the end of the experience, but at least you know, okay, if it has 70% alcohol then its killing 99.99% of the germs. Also, on that note, according to the CDC,` I'm sure a lot of people are aware of this at this point, but even the CDC says that if your hand sanitizer contains 70% alcohol that it will kill 99.99% of germs including human coronavirus. That gives you a really strong sense of security when you have hand sanitizer, but the question right now is do you have it in stock?

So us making it available to our customers was the first step, and the second step was to make sure that it still lived up to our customers’ values. That we kept it clear of the unwanted fillers that are in most hand sanitizers right now. That we infused it with ingredients that would prevent that cracking because as you've said, Ashley, that opens your skin up to the infection. That opens your body up to any type of disease and infection when you have a cut. So right now, this is definitely not the time to back down on your health principles or those things you look for inside of your formulas normally. So we wanted to make sure that those rich formulas were available to our customer base, so glycerin, chamomile, vitamin E, aloe vera, things that if you don't have our formula you want to look for some lotions to put on after you apply a hand sanitizer, but when you can get it all in one application that's really a lovely spot to be in.

So our hand sanitizer, we went ahead and named it Hand Sanitizer + Skin Conditioner because we wanted you to recognize—our users, our customers—that they would be getting a full-range experience. This is really a hand sanitizer unlike anything else in the marketplace. It's an antimicrobial gel that delivers the perfect solution. Since alcohol does dry out your skin, this moisturizing experience in conjunction with the alcohol is really the perfect duo, and it conditions even as you clean. So it's the best of both worlds.

[0:14:13] Ashley James: I read somewhere that you only need it to be 65% alcohol to kill the coronavirus, is that correct?

[0:14:20] Faith Flatt: There are two different types of alcohol. One type of alcohol it takes 70%, and that is the type that we use inside of our formula.

[0:14:33] Ashley James: Got it, got it. Do you know the reason behind choosing the type of alcohol you guys chose over the other type?

[0:14:41] Faith Flatt: I'll tell you that I'm not the person who directly oversees our alcohol purchases, but it is very difficult right now to obtain alcohol. I'm sure that perhaps that had something to do with our decision, but we are committed to getting alcohol in stock and keeping it in stock because we think this is so necessary and important for our customers. One interesting thing as well is that the price of alcohol has more than doubled since the crisis began.

So we're really in a battle for the commodities and essentials that everyone needs and that we even need to make this formula, but we are committed to making this available to our customers. We really want to bring all of the resources that we with our FDA-monitored facility, our ability to make FDA-approved labels to give people a formula they trust from a brand they trust in this—what is really a—warlike effort right now where all small businesses, all-hands-on-deck need to come together to help fight the crisis that we're in the middle of.

As a company, for us, this is our positive action. We're willing to fight and find the alcohol that we need to source for this formula.

[0:16:06] Ashley James: Awesome. The very first ingredient is aloe juice, which I think is really cool. Everyone knows that aloe juice is very healthy for the skin, it's anti-inflammatory, it's very soothing. I had an expert on the show about aloe and the healing benefits. There are several scientific studies that show that aloe increases healing time so much so that it almost doubles healing time. 

So when you put aloe on a burn or a cut, you will see it heal in half the amount of time it would take. If it would take, let's say, three days to heal a burn, you put aloe on it it's only going to take a day and a half. You have the first ingredient is medicinal, it's something that helps to heal the skin, condition the skin, and keep it healthy. It's like a layer of protection. Can you tell us about the other ingredients?

[0:17:06] Faith Flatt: Sure. Most of them are ingredients that the average person is going to be familiar with. Aloe vera—as you were mentioning—chamomile, vitamin E, and glycerin. While those ingredients have really positive connotations and I absolutely believe what you're saying about aloe vera and love those types of ingredients for my own personal use with my family, we are very limited in what we're actually able to say that each ingredient specifically does inside of the formula. We mix those in so that you do get nourishing effects, but as far as the individual benefit of each ingredient, we're limited in what we can say that it actually does for you.

[0:17:52] Ashley James: Oh, right because you can't make health claims as a company. You can't say, “Buy our hand cream and your psoriasis will be gone.” You can't make health claims, whereas if someone were to take these individual ingredients and they could go search the NIH or PubMed, they could find the scientific studies showing that these individual ingredients are safe. That they've been proven to be safe, and some of them are proven to actually be medicinal and healing, but combined together it's made a hand sanitizer, that it protects your hands, and it also protects your skin.

[0:18:27] Faith Flatt: Right. We can promise you that this is going to condition your skin, and it's going to leave you feeling nourished and moisturized. Certainly, I encourage you to do some research on these ingredients and see what some of the extra benefits to you could be.

[0:18:46] Ashley James: Right, right. Well, it's funny because you're at the grocery store and some of the grocery stores still have hand sanitizer to offer the customers, not to buy but just like a giant jug. We were at Whole Foods and they had this giant jug of this just regular run-of-the-mill hand sanitizer. I'm pumping it to my hand, giving some to my son, and my husband turns to me and he goes, “Isn't that carcinogenic?” I look at him, I'm like, “Yeah.” We normally don't use this stuff—the generic hand sanitizers—because you look and there are parabens and there are all kinds of carcinogenic, like you said, fillers, and preservatives, and whatever that is known to cause cancer, that is known to cause damage to the body. We normally—as a family—don't touch those with a ten foot pole, but now it's like, “Well, either that or we might accidentally get the coronavirus.”

Of course, we're self-isolating now, but back when we were seeing our son’s grandparents a few weeks ago I was worried. I was like, “Well, what's going on? What's going to happen?” I'd love to get them because they go grocery shopping, and I'm just worried about them. They're almost in their 80s, I’m worried. I'm worried that they might catch the germ when they're out grocery shopping because they don't have access to hand sanitizer. So I'm definitely going to get them. I'm going to ship them a tube of this for sure. How much do you use, because it's only like a pea-sized amount? This tube is going to last me forever because you just put a pea-sized amount. Because it's a gel, it covers both sides of your hands really quickly. Is there a recommended how much you should use on your hands to make sure that it works?

[0:20:39] Faith Flatt: No. The only recommendation, really, is just to make a little drop. A lot of people don't know this but you do want to rub your hands all around your hands until it's dry, and then that will make sure that the alcohol gets a chance to activate and to actually kill the germs. Right now especially, we want to make sure we're using the hand sanitizer properly. I'm glad you mentioned the tube as well. That's one of my favorite features of this formula. The container makes it very easy to share with your kids, or if your friend or somebody around you wants to borrow some hand sanitizer—you don't necessarily want them touching your pump bottle—so the tube just makes it really easy to drop a little bit on the top of their hand and not share germs in that way.

[0:21:30] Ashley James: Pump bottles waste so much because you end up getting way too much in your hands. That's what everyone thinks they need that much, but I think it's intentional that these companies do that so that you go through it faster and then you buy more. Whereas with yours, you get to squeeze out however much you want and it's, like you said, a gel. I squeeze out about a pea-sized—maybe a large pee, maybe an edamame size—and then I rub both sides of my hands, and in between my fingers, and then it dries really fast—within seconds. That's actually good information about rubbing your hands until it's dry, but I use so much less with yours versus the pump ones, so I really like that.

Now you said your company—for years—has been dabbling with so I'm sure you guys had like a formula in mind or did you kind of go back to the drawing board and start from scratch three weeks ago when you were inventing the hand sanitizer?

[0:22:33] Faith Flatt: I think we knew the base of what we wanted to do, and then just getting it into that finalized position, and getting all of the marketing material, and making sure that we were able to communicate clearly, that we had the correct label on the formula. That was really what the focus was over the last week and a half, but we certainly had a good idea of what ingredients would work well so that you do get that wonderful experience you're sharing with us. We've got some wonderful testimonials from some early users of the formula, and I just wanted to share some of those with you.

Let's see, Elisa, she said, “That the smooth finish and silky filling are delightful,” which is not something you commonly hear after using a hand sanitizer. It's usually a dry icky feeling. Joe said, “Clean hands with no dry feeling. Perfect.” Bethany loves that it's not scented. Then Ryan said that it doesn't dry his hands out. We're definitely getting the results we wanted from this formula, and the feedback so far is that people are happy and happy to have it. Like you mentioned, you want to send this to members of your family. It's a strange time to live in where hand sanitizer is probably one of the best gifts you could get right now, but it's so hard to find and it's so essential as a first line of defense against this disease. That we're happy to be doing it. It really fits back into who we are as a company.

Real Time Pain Relief’s primary goal is to make sure that individuals have a first line of defense when pain enters their home, and so that's what we've been passionate about with our topical pain reliefs for a long time is to make sure that you have an option that doesn't have those fillers inside of it, that doesn't lead you to popping a pain pill anytime pain enters your home. Because one of the best ways to avoid a bad habit or to make good health choices is to make sure that you have an alternative. So we're happy we're able to provide that non-carcinogenic hand sanitizer to our customer base because everyone needs it right now, and now you have another alternative.

[0:25:02] Ashley James: Absolutely. Yes, I'm loving it. I started thinking about all the families I know that are multi-generational like my dear, dear Aunt Sally—who I love to bits—lives just outside of LA. She's in her 80s—I think she's 86—and she lives with her grandchildren, and her son, and her son's wife. These kids—well, now they're not going to school—they might be going to the park, they might be running around, maybe they'll have a playdate, maybe they're on lockdown I don't know. They might go out and maybe they see a friend in the street. Maybe they accidentally catch the virus, or maybe they go to the grocery store. If they don't have access to hand sanitizer, they might bring it back and in fact my aunt who is in the vulnerable population because statistics are showing that those who are seniors are much more likely to have severe effects of the virus versus youth.

So think of all the people you know where a senior citizen lives in a family, where there are maybe younger people, they may be asymptomatic if they catch the virus, but if they bring it home it could be fatal for someone else in the home. That's why this hand sanitizer is so important that the younger generations use it to protect the older generations right now. Of course, the older generations should use it too. Everyone should use it. I just think that people—like teenagers and people in their 20s because I remember I was there—we kind of feel invincible. Like, “Oh, whatever. If I get it, it won't be a problem.”

What if you get it and you're asymptomatic, and for two weeks you're shedding it and giving it to everyone you come in contact with. That is potentially murdering people. I know I'm being extreme and normally I'm not a fear monger—I feel like I'm being one right now—but just to paint the picture, something as simple as keeping a hand sanitizer with us at all times can save lives. Just like people are saying, “Well, masks in certain situations can save lives.” Hand sanitizer, I think, is more important because you are going to touch something and then you touch your eye. That through the eye—they're saying is one of the biggest ways that we can catch the coronavirus. 

Obviously, through eyes, nose, and mouth, but even if you're wearing a mask—if you're wearing a mask and you're wearing gloves—and then you touch the virus, and you don't realize it, and then you accidentally rub your eye—even with gloves on—you're still potentially putting the virus in your eyes. That's where hand sanitizers are the most important thing to do. I know we're not going to make a huge long interview on hand sanitizer, but I wanted to just cover it as much as possible to let the listeners know that I was so excited that it's available. 

So listeners go to learntruehealth.com/hand. That's learntruehealth.com/hand and grab some. Grab some for yourself, grab some for your neighbors, grab some for your loved ones. Your company will ship it to them. How fast is the shipping? You gave me the information that you are producing 30,000 units a day. Are you able to produce more than that or are you shutting down making your other products? Could you make more than 30,000? Are you selling out? How fast does it ship? Is it selling out or is there any fear that you're going to sell out? We want to know.

[0:29:01] Faith Flatt: We started out really slowly even though—like I said three weeks and then a week and a half later it's available—it doesn't sound too slow, but we've taken it cautiously. First of all, no, we're not stopping producing our topical pain relief formulas. So to anybody who uses Real Time Pain Relief, don't panic. We're still doing that because pain relief is an essential service, and we definitely know you need that. We’re just taking more precautions, and cleaning our facilities, and making sure that you've got a clean delivery every time.

We have transitioned a portion of our production line into putting out 30 units a day. At first, we thought, “Okay, that's really going to be enough to supply our customers. Get them all caught up and we'll be in a good spot,” but what's interesting, Ashley, is within about 48 hours of releasing this formula to a limited group of our customers at first—because we wanted to make sure we had our stockpile good before we released it to all of our customers—we were being hit up by major organizations and businesses across the country saying, “Hey, we need this too.”

So we realized quickly that we could service and help in this fight, not just by making hand sanitizer available to our customer base but also to supplying America's workforce. By this, I mean organizations and corporations who are really keeping America running right now. We hear so much right now about the heroes who are our nurses and doctors. They're getting a ton of attention, and they deserve that so much, but there's another segment that really has become a hero—all of the grocery store operators, all of the truckers, all of the takeout deliveries services. These people are literally risking their lives much more than those of us who are able to isolate at home, and they need hand sanitizer. They're low on hand sanitizer.

I live in a small town in New Hampshire so you get to know everyone at the cash register and they become your friends. You realize they're still out there right now, I'm isolating at home with my children and their heroes. It just almost brings tears to your eyes to recognize that some of them don't have access to hand sanitizers. So when we started getting those calls we realized we were going to make this a big priority. We were able to put together a large enough supply, and we believe we'll be able to maintain it. We are able to offer wholesale packages to businesses and organizations starting at 42 units—depending on the size of the company. Maybe you have friends or family who own a business or organization, 42 units all the way up to 100,000 units.

If you know somebody who's in need of a large quantity of hand sanitizer, we want to help. We want to make that available to you because we believe that everybody deserves to have access to hand sanitizer as a first line of defense from this disease.


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[0:32:27] Ashley James: I love it. You started out making 30,000 units a day, what's your production now?

[0:32:33] Faith Flatt: Right now we're still producing 30,000 units a day. We do have it in stock at the time of this recording, but just for peace of mind for customers, we do have an estimated ship date on the landing page. So whenever you go to order it'll indicate when your hand sanitizer will ship.

[0:32:58] Ashley James: Yeah, and it was fast. That's great news. Shipping right now is kind of—like Amazon, for example, I ordered something and it said it's not going to arrive until April 21st but then it arrived the next day. So I'm like, “What's going on?” I think shipping’s being a little weird for other companies like USPS, and FedEx, and UPS. I'm not sure if they're limiting their staff, or if they're maybe overloaded because everyone's home so they're ordering online, or if they're limiting their staff because they have to do social distancing. What I do know is that I got my shipment from you guys superfast. I was really excited about that, and so far, all your customers that you released it to were able to get it, and start using it, and give feedback so that's great.

[0:33:57] Faith Flatt: Yeah. We’ve actively been able to fill orders, and we have enough right now to be filling very quickly, and we're still servicing large accounts that are calling us and needing the supply. Our first priority is to our customer base, but we do have everything in place to be able to service these organizations and unsung heroes with hand sanitizer as well. One thing I wanted to throw out as well is that we're not the only company contributing in the hand sanitizer realm right now. There are a lot of small businesses lending a big hand. I'm sure you may have heard that a lot of distilleries right now are making hand sanitizer. One thing about those is the distilleries are not licensed to both produce and sell the formulas. So that influx of hand sanitizer doesn't necessarily make it out to the general population.

What most of that is going to—most of those hand sanitizer supplies—are being donated to first responders, and government officials, and nurses, so that's wonderful. We're really happy that the distilleries are helping to fill that gap there. Then we're happy to be here helping just the everyday consumer. One thing for healthcare officials compared to just the everyday person, you have to wash their hands up to a hundred times a day—so much more than we do—they're going to be going through that quickly. So it's nice that we can all partner together in this really warlike effort to help make sure that everyone is taken care of.

[0:35:39] Ashley James: I just thought, wouldn't it be cool if you have the means—the listener who's listening right now—to buy ten bottles, for example. If you have the means to do so, give a bottle to your mailman, give a bottle to UPS driver. We have a Facebook group of 270 people that are just our neighbors in our little neighborhood of maybe three square miles, and our UPS driver joined our Facebook group, which just blows my mind. He posted updates. He's like, “I want to let you guys know that I am sanitizing my hands in between every single delivery.”

Back when we had the snowstorm where no one could get out of their driveway for over a week—unless you had a four-wheel drive—he posted that because he couldn't even get into our neighborhood. He would stay for an hour by the gas station near our area, and for those who could get out, he'd be able to give their packages to them. He's been in communication with us in times of crisis, but he said, “I promise you, I am doing everything I can to make sure that your deliveries are safe. That I keep myself sanitized.” I'm just thinking these postal workers who are actually taking the time to buy their own hand sanitizer—if they can, which no one can find any—so I would love to get him a bottle because everyone's running out.

So your mailman, the checker at your grocery store if they don't have any, the people that you run into even though we’re supposed to be self-isolating, but the people that you do run into when you go like the checkers, and the mailman, and the delivery people, and your neighbors, and your loved ones, obviously. We could—if we have the means—buy some extra bottles so that we can give it to those who have to be out there. Like you said, delivery people who have to be out there and don't have access to it. That'd be really cool to pass it along.

One of my friends posted on Facebook that their church is encouraging them to leave toilet paper out on their front porch. Obviously, not in the weather, but underneath the roof or whatever. Leave some toilet paper out on the porch, and so if anyone needs some they'll see some toilet paper and they'll get it. Then other churches I heard were encouraging people to make a clear plastic bin with essentials like food and toilet paper with a sign that says, “If you need some please take it.” That way, we're helping our community, we're helping each other especially those in need because there are those in our community who lost their jobs, who were living paycheck to paycheck. Now they have to figure out how to make ends meet. 

If even just buying one bottle of hand sanitizer for that person because now they're going to do Uber Eats or something, and they're going to be a delivery person just to make ends meet that's supportive of them. If we can get together and figure out how we can support the people in our community who aren't being supported by giving them some extra toilet paper, or giving them some food, or giving them a hand sanitizer then we will all help each other. Arising tide floats all boats. I love that saying because I imagine all the neighborhoods being lifted up because we are all the tide that's rising. We are all doing that effort together. 

So if we can think about how we can help others in our community, if we have the means, if you have the means help. Do what you can. Do it safely, but do what you can. Just because we're such a social distancing doesn't mean that we don't still help each other and still care for each other.

It has been so great having you on the show to talk about this. I'm really excited that you're providing this really essential service. Is there anything else that you'd like to say about your company, about this hand sanitizer, just any of the science or the studies? Is there anything that you really want to make sure that you got to say today?

[0:40:21] Faith Flatt: I'd love to thank you, first of all, for having us just to talk about this new formula that really can make a difference. I want to say, “Make sure you are practicing good hygiene and utilizing any hand sanitizer, but of course, the Hand Sanitizer + Skin Conditioner from Real Time is wonderful, but first of all, we believe that everyone deserves the ability to fight off germs.” As you said, Ashley, we all have our part to play to protect those around us, so hand sanitizer is just very important right now. We're excited to be doing our part.

I want to say one last time that if you're an organization, or a business, or you know of one that's a need of hand sanitizer, or you yourself just want to share it with others, as Ashley recommended, we've got some wonderful bundle options available. We're just looking forward to partnering with you to get Hand Sanitizer + Skin Conditioner into more people's hands.

[0:41:25] Ashley James: Awesome. Listeners can go to learntruehealth.com/hand. That's learntruehealth.com/hand to buy the hand sanitizer—either individual or like you said the bundles. You can also use the coupon code LTH to get a fun gift. It's been such a pleasure having you on the show, Faith. Thank you so much for all you do. I know you've been working like a fiend the last three weeks to help get this hand sanitizer out there. I'm really impressed that you guys could turn around in that short period of time and produce such a high-quality product, but I shouldn't be surprised because that's what you guys do. So it's been pretty awesome.

I also recommend—if listeners do have any pain—check out their other pain creams. I am a big fan of the MAXX Pain Cream myself, but you guys also have other formulas. George Foreman has his own formula, which has everything in it. I haven't tried that one yet, but I've heard that it's now everyone's favorite formula.


[0:42:32] Faith Flatt: It’s a knockout, I’ll tell you.

[0:42:36] Ashley James: Well, I loved everything George Foreman's ever done, so I wouldn't be surprised. So listeners, when you go to learntruehealth.com/hand and you buy your hand sanitizer, then if you do have any pain, or if you know a friend or family member that has pain then also check out the different pain creams, the George Foreman pain cream. I looked at all the ingredients, I was really, really impressed with everything that was in it. That it actually does work. I have even given some of your pain creams to some friends who are in chronic pain with fibromyalgia and with osteoporosis. They were so thankful. I've heard nothing but good feedback from experiencing your pain cream so I was really happy.

The fact that people significantly reduce their pain meds when using your pain creams is so beautiful because those pain meds are so harmful to the body. If we can do it naturally then we're really protecting that person in the long run. So, thank you for everything you do. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to hearing from the listeners. Listeners can go to the Facebook group—the Learn True Health Facebook group—and share with us your experience with this hand sanitizer. How you and your family are enjoying it. I would also love to hear from the listeners—in the Facebook group—how you gifted this hand sanitizer to someone in your community. I think that's so inspirational. I love those stories of pay it forward.

So if you do buy the hand sanitizer for someone else please post it in the Learn True Health Facebook group. I'd love to hear that story. It's like one of those Christmas tales where the whole town doesn't have any presents or something really bad happens. We all come together and we end up making a Christmas miracle. So we're all going to come together, and give each other hand sanitizer, and support each other in this really crazy time.

Faith, thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you for producing this hand sanitizer. I am going shopping today and I can't wait to bring it with me. I feel very happy that I have this tube right now when I go grocery shopping today.

[0:45:05] Faith Flatt: Well, I'm glad you have it too. Thank you for having me, Ashley.

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Ashley James is a Holistic Health Coach, Podcaster, Rapid Anxiety Cessation Expert, and avid Whole Food Plant-Based Home Chef. Since 2005 Ashley has worked with clients to transform their lives as a Master Practitioner and Trainer of Neuro-linguistic Programming.

Her health struggles led her to study under the world’s top holistic doctors, where she reversed her type 2 diabetes, PCOS, infertility, chronic infections, and debilitating adrenal fatigue.

In 2016, Ashley launched her podcast Learn True Health with Ashley James to spread the TRUTH about health and healing. You no longer need to suffer; your body CAN and WILL heal itself when we give it what it needs and stop what is harming it!

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