250: AutoImmunity


Many people suffer from autoimmunity. But because sometimes the symptoms can be confusing, people fail to seek immediate treatment for autoimmunity. My guest today, Dr. Jared Seigler has an amazing story on how his journey led him to help people address autoimmunity conditions.

Stumbled By Accident

Dr. Jared Seigler relates that he stumbled into functional medicine by accident. It started when his wife was struggling to conceive for years because she was suffering from PCOS. After almost five years of searching for answers, they were even contemplating on adopting a child.

But Dr. Jared Seigler refused to give up mainly since his wife was just 23 years old at the time. He was even subjected to a stool test wherein they found parasites so Dr. Jared Seigler also underwent treatment.

After years of searching for answers and countless treatments, the couple was finally blessed with a daughter who is now five years old.

Helminth Parasites

Helminths are parasitic worms, and parasites are known manipulators of the immune system. The first time Dr. Jared Seigler got exposed to it was six years ago when one of his lupus patients called him. That patient claimed to feel better because of her dog's licks. She was not taking any drugs nor any supplements. 

“What good parasites can do, is act like a probiotic for the parasite. As they manipulate the immune system to hide from it, so the immune system doesn't attack it, they also suppress the immune system that is causing autoimmunity,” Dr. Jared Seigler said. 

He adds, “I'm not anti-parasite. When I look autoimmunity and probiotics research, it's a hit or miss. There is even research showing that for example, Crohn's is due to the immune system in some cases, losing tolerance to normal bacteria.”

But Dr. Jared Seigler clarifies that when we see someone being given a beneficial parasite consistently, that can take away a lot of autoimmune symptoms. He says dead bacteria behaves utterly different than a live bacteria. Some of the most potent stimulators of inflammation in the gut are dead bacteria that they use in the modern dairy industry.

The Truth About Milk

Dr. Jared Seigler believes the gut has to quit getting colostrum from mother's milk. Hence, a mom has to stop breastfeeding for the gut to grow.

“The premise that we need milk for health has been purely built on BS. The research goes the other way,” explains Dr. Jared Seigler. “Technically, when you look at it on a big enough scale, 100% of the world is lactose-intolerant. It takes five gallons of milk a day or a sip to be able to reset intolerance of sugars in the milk.”

Understanding Autoimmunity

Dr. Jared Seigler readily shares that he has autoimmunity as well as his wife. So, he clearly knows he can't go back to eating the way he used to eat. Dr. Jared Seigler is also aware that he is not perfect just because he has changed his lifestyle to a healthier one. But he loves being a work in progress. That is why his passion lies in also helping people get their bodies to a place where they can heal.

“With the whole premises of autoimmunity, there's the genetic susceptibility component. I truly don't believe the immune system makes a mistake with autoimmunity,” said Dr. Jared Seigler. “I believe the immune system is being tricked and overwhelmed in that scenario.” 

He adds, “Once the immune system recognizes it as a problem, we have to think about what is driving certain things for autoimmunity like molecular mimicry. For molecular mimicry, the immune system initially recognizes something bad like identifying characteristics. Once it progresses, it can start epitope spreading.”

Human Microbiome Project

The Human Microbiome Project tries to figure out all the bacteria in our gut, and skin, as well as figuring out what all these bacteria do and how they influence our genes. Dr. Jared Seigler says bacteria pitifully outnumber us.

“One of the things that the Microbiome Project started to make clearer is that it is really about the diversity of bacteria more than anything,” said Dr. Jared Seigler.

Apparently, there about ten times more viruses inside the gut than there are bacteria. So, there's a whole concept called the microbiome. Plus, there's a microbiome where we can vividly see worms.

“Someone's microbiome is like a thumbprint. I think a lot of these companies are data-mining people's microbiomes,” Dr. Jared Seigler said. “They are giving away these costly tests for relatively nothing. For the 23andMe, they were selling people's genetic data to pharma companies.”

Cold Showers

Dr. Jared Seigler reveals that he is also a big fan of cold showers. What it does as far as glutathione production, neurotransmitter production, and microbiome change, it that we weren't designed to be 72 degrees year-round. Just like we weren't intended to eat the same food.

He says taking cold showers changes how mitochondria functions. It also changes antioxidants, changes how our body utilizes and breaks down a lot of things as well as making people warm.

Eating Real Food

Dr. Jared Seigler says as far as figuring out the cause of autoimmunity; he never blames food as long as it is real food. He believes that in the long run, probably one of the worse things someone can do is restrict a lot of their food diversity.

Dr. Jared Seigler also believes that doing a three-day fast can be beneficial.  And as far as recommending the best prebiotics, he advises thinking of prebiotics as fiber. Think of fiber like fruits and vegetables. Eat different fruits and vegetables if you want different prebiotics.

On the other hand, I have had Chinese medicine practitioner Sarica Cernohous on the show who attested to the benefits of eating fermented foods. Shifting her family to eat at least one fermented food a day eventually strengthened their gut.

“I would rather somebody eat fermented foods than try to take it in a capsule. Because traditionally, that's how we would get probiotics from the fermentation process,” said Dr. Jared Seigler. “It might not necessarily beat all the bacteria that's in there, but as the bacteria is eating that food, their poop is what we're after. They change genetic expression.”

Gluten Sensitivity

According to Dr. Jared Seigler, gluten sensitivity is the genetic predisposition. That is why we see such a huge correlation between autoimmunity and gluten sensitivity.

Dr. Jared Seigler also mentions that he took Dr. Tom O' Bryan and Dr. Peter Osbone's gluten certification course. He took the classes after deciding to go gluten-free when his wife was diagnosed with celiac.

“My energy and depression got better, and my anxiety and brain fog disappeared. I see people on so many different spectrums. Some people don't even know what gluten is,” said Dr. Jared Seigler.

Dr. Jared Seigler says there are even case studies of ALS being gluten sensitive with a 100% resolution upon going on a gluten-free diet. So, it eliminates the inflammation. We dramatically see that when we start to remove problematic foods.

Functional Neurology

Dr. Jared Seigler explains that from 0 to 6 years old, brain waves of a child is similar to how we dream or store long-term memories. It is similar to dreaming while they are awake.

As soon as it happens inside of a child's brain, their subconscious now operates on an entirely different level. And this is where you can measure some things like heart rate variability.

“I love doing a thing called Functional Neurology. Most people know about functional medicine, but functional neurology is like a personal trainer for your brain. You can exercise different parts of the brain to increase its function,” said Dr. Jared Seigler.

The Power Of Thoughts

Dr. Jared Seigler explains that we always think food may be poisoning our autoimmune disease. So, if you're only eating 4 to 5 times a day, you have the potential to poison yourself 4 to 5 times a day.

But we have anywhere around 30,000 thoughts a day and only 1% may be bad. That's still hundreds of times a day we poison ourselves with a thought. Technically, a toxin can be a thought or a relationship.

“So, if we know that these bad thoughts have negative effects, you can feel your blood pressure rising,” Dr. Jared Seigler explains. “That's your stress response shifting into high gear. You change your physiology with thoughts. Generosity and gratitude are the two strongest positive emotions.”

A positive mindset is powerful. Dr. Jared Seigler usually advises people suffering from addiction to write on a journal and focus on what they are grateful for.

“You can get over addiction by diluting it until it is socially acceptable. With an addiction to food, in particular, we can tell when somebody is ready to make a change to the question they are asking. Ultimately, the brain wants to feel normal,” said Dr. Jared Seigler. “The body has never made a mistake. It is just doing what it can in the environment that it's in.


Dr. Jared Seigler, Doctor of Chiropractic and Certified Functional Medicine Practitioner, practices in West Chester, Ohio. His passion is to help his patients regain their health through Functional and Lifestyle Medicine. This personal quest was sparked by watching the health of his loved ones degrade over time while conventional medicine provided no real answers. 

Initially starting as a personal trainer, Dr. Jared Seigler had an insatiable appetite for knowledge on how to better the health of his clients. This hunger for knowledge is his guiding light and has grown into what we offer at the Living Proof Institute. 

By helping patients identify the cause of their disease and giving them the tools to regain their health, Dr. Jared Seigler cannot only compliment his patient's current healthcare but fill the gaps left by conventional medicine. 

In his spare time, Dr. Jared Seigler likes to enjoy the outdoors and spend time with his wife and family.

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Why Isn't My Brain Working? by Dr. Datis Kharrazian 


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Ashley James

Health Coach, Podcast Creator, Homeschooling Mom, Passionate About God & Healing

Ashley James is a Holistic Health Coach, Podcaster, Rapid Anxiety Cessation Expert, and avid Whole Food Plant-Based Home Chef. Since 2005 Ashley has worked with clients to transform their lives as a Master Practitioner and Trainer of Neuro-linguistic Programming.

Her health struggles led her to study under the world’s top holistic doctors, where she reversed her type 2 diabetes, PCOS, infertility, chronic infections, and debilitating adrenal fatigue.

In 2016, Ashley launched her podcast Learn True Health with Ashley James to spread the TRUTH about health and healing. You no longer need to suffer; your body CAN and WILL heal itself when we give it what it needs and stop what is harming it!

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