400: Healing Through Prayers

Emily Becker And Ashley James


  • Power of prayer
  • Prayer are stepping stones to recovering health
  • Building relationship through prayer
  • Let go of fear through faith, belief, and prayer.
  • As you build your relationship with God through prayer, you start receiving more and more good things
  • Prayers help people to have more positive outlook
  • One-on-one connection with God
  • Reticular activating system
  • You feel more joy from giving than that person will ever get from receiving
  • Learn from the returns
  • God's answer is yes, no, or later
  • Looking at all aspects of your life and bring it all into balance
  • Life in a few years can be so brilliant, so amazing that you wouldn't want to give it up for anything
  • Write down who you want to pray for, what you'd like for yourself, and also something to give, if you have something to give praise about
  • You should surround yourself and try to serve and reach as many people as you can whatever you are

In today’s episode, Emily will share with us the value of prayer and how it helps us recover our health and how it builds a deeper connection with God, ourselves and other people.

[00:00:00] Intro: Welcome to the Learn True Health podcast. I'm your host, Ashley James. This is Episode 400.

I am so excited to have back on the show Emily Becker. She was here in Episode 340 sharing about how she reversed her alopecia. She basically went — her entire body went bald.  And she restored herself with natural medicine and she helps families and men and women and children who have this condition. She helps them to reverse it naturally as well. So if you have alopecia, if you have hair loss, or if you know anyone who does, listen to Episode 340 and share it with them. And let them know but Emily Becker because she is definitely living proof. You should see pictures. Emily, your hair is gorgeous. And I've been Facebook friends with you since your alopecia days when you didn't have any hair. And then you started to grow the hair. A little peach fuzz at first and now I think your hair is as long as mine. I mean it's just like it's going to be so long people are going to be climbing it. That was a Disney movie with no hair.

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[00:01:20] Emily Becker: Rapunzel.

[00:01:21] Ashley James: You're going to be Rapunzel soon. Your hair is so luscious and long. And so it was great having you on the show in Episode 340. And I'm glad you could come back to share what's happened since. When you came on the show, you shared what your story and what you did to naturally reverse your alopecia, both diet and supplements and topical things. And since then you were just starting your business which is at home. You have formulated the most amazing organic and 100 percent natural herbal creams and salves and remedies for all kinds of skin and hair conditions. And your businesses just taken off and you do it all from home. When the kids go to bed, you're a busy stay at home mom.

I've been loving watching you flourish. And watching all your customers report back to you on Facebook just how much your pain cream with the CBD in it has helped them. Or you know, your face creams. And I love your face cream. It's so luxurious. So I could go on and on about how wonderful your own natural products are. And I love that you show pictures on Facebook of the process of you making things so we see the ingredients and see how you do it. And we know absolutely 100 percent of the ingredients that are going in so there's no chemicals or pesticides or anything like that in your home remedy cosmetics. It's wonderful.

So welcome back to the show.

[00:02:56] Emily Becker: Thank you, Ashley. I'm so happy to be here. I had so much fun last time we did this together. I've been wanting to ask you to come back on the show for so long and I'm grateful that you're willing to do this in such a short notice with me.

[00:03:14] Ashley James: Oh, yeah. This week you're like, “Can I come back on the show?” I'm like, “Yeah. What you doing this weekend?” It's like Saturday afternoon – about to be afternoon right now and here we are hanging out.

[00:03:25] Emily Becker: Well, I was feeling inspired to thank your supporters and all your listeners for all of their support for me. I get emails and I mean, they order from me as well. But I get a lot of emails saying that, you know, they need help with their alopecia. Or that they connected with me through face and then we'll pray together through email and spend some time together like that. And I just wanted to thank them so much for their support.

[00:03:57] Ashley James: Wonderful. Well, I love the community. The Learn True Health community is filled with really loving and caring people who want to get their health back and want to help their friends and family do the same. And so I love that you have found that to be the case as well that my listeners have reached out to you because of their alopecia or other skin issues. That they've also connected with you on a level of faith.

I know something that's really made a big difference to you and to your healing and to your success is utilizing the power of prayer.

[00:04:33] Emily Becker: Absolutely.

[00:04:35] Ashley James: What does that mean? What does it mean to have the power of prayer help you? How has prayer helped you specifically? Because I know you were telling me before we hit record that prayer has been something that has absolutely made a difference in your life. And for those who have not really ever prayed or maybe not to spiritual or religious, they might scoff at it. That, you know, it's just you're just basically talking to some Sky Daddy. Like that's how some people feel, right? So some people, “I've never connected with prayer.” And then there's other people I've met who say prayer has been life changing for them. That they absolutely feel that it is one of the biggest reasons why they have gotten their health back, or become successful, or been able to attain the goals that they intend to obtain.

Can you give us – share us the story of what happened in your life that had you see that prayer made a big difference to you?

[00:05:38] Emily Becker: Well, prayer has made a big difference to me from the beginning of my health recovery. I wasn't a believer as a young child or in my teens or anything. I didn't – I always knew that there was a God but I didn't have a relationship with Him or anything like that. And it was when I started to pray without trusting Jesus or anything like that that I started asking God to lead me to health. I stopped fearing my health conditions. I stopped fearing how I looked in the mirror and how my health was affecting me. I started asking for help and guidance through prayer. Within a month of the first time I ever prayed, I was on my way. I didn't really see it happening when it was happening. But looking back, as I prayed, all of my prayers were answered. It was like stepping stones to recovering my health. I used to have a lot of fear in my heart and in my life. I had anxiety and I was living in fear. And as I would pray, the fear, all that, would be lifted from me momentarily as I prayed for a day or two. And then, eventually, I saw that I personally needed this holy help. I needed Jesus. This is my personal story. This is how I feel that I needed Him to help me with my burdens. I needed to give Him the weight that's on my shoulders. And that I couldn't do it alone. And I needed guidance. So I started trusting in Jesus. And then after that, it's just been building this relationship through prayer. Where instead of feeling like I'm alone and praying for all the bad things to go away, I prayed for help and love and guidance.

And as I did that, I started receiving blessings, gifts. I started meeting people who could help me. I started believing that I could get better. I started believing that everything was going to be okay. And as my faith and my belief and my prayer life grew stronger and stronger, the more I was able to let go my fear.

I actually took – Ashley, I took your anxiety course, how to release your anxiety. And I got to tell you, I never finished. I've done the first 15 days three times. And it's really similar to prayer because when – I love it. I love it. Because once you start talking about stuff that I'm familiar with, I'm like, “I got to get this other stuff ingrained in my head.” Once you set your eyes on what your heart really wants, God is listening. He wants good things for all of us. And that was how I started to believe in the power of prayer. And the things that I personally that have healed or come to me through prayer have been meeting the doctor who could help me with my hair loss. I prayed for that. And I also prayed – there's other things that I'll pray for and I'm like, “Oh, I can't believe I did that. Now look at this.”

[00:09:19] Ashley James: What do you mean? What specifically?

[00:09:21] Emily Becker: So I'll pray in simple little areas of my life. Like, “I like to eat more whole foods and eat healthier. And then all of a sudden, my kids get – you know, they're sick and I know I need to cut out the processed foods or they're going to just going to get sicker and sicker. So it's like, “Okay. Well, I don't want to change my whole lifestyle but it looks like we're going to have to. Thanks, God.” All right. So it's not always the answer you want but he's always there trying to give you good things. So as you build your relationship with God through prayer, you start receiving more and more good things. And then I couldn't keep that to myself. I started praying over my orders. I started praying over my friends, my neighbors. And by praying for my friends and my neighbors, I'm able to see that, one, it's rewarding to share that love with Jesus through prayer. Whether they know it or not, it's really rewarding to love someone enough that you would pray for them.

I really appreciate the breath work before this interview. I am.

[00:10:42] Ashley James: It was hilarious. I shared with Emily the breath work interview I did recently. I said, “You have to listen to this.” And she wrote back a few hours later, “I just listened to the world's longest interview on breath work.” It was like a two hour long interview on breathing. It's breathing. We all do it. But I mean, it was amazing. And so before we hit record, I'm like, “Let's do some deep breathing together. Let's just, you know, get Emily a bit calm.” Because she doesn't normally jump on podcasts.

[00:11:13] Emily Becker: No.

[00:11:12] Ashley James: And so let's get grounded. But you shared something really interesting, just as an offshoot, I want to make sure we covered this. You told me what you do to get your kids to get sleepy and wind them down before bed that you used breathing. Can you share how you do that to get your family to calm down for bedtime?

[00:11:34] Emily Becker: Yeah. Well, yeah, when I was listening to the podcast about breath work, I was like, “Oh, I already do this with my kids.” And what happens is everybody's excited and they won't even listen to a story. They won't settle down for a good book. And what I'll do is I won't say anything. I'll just start breathing nice and slow and deep. And after a few breaths, you'll start to see – just like how yawning, it's contagious. You'll start to see their breathing slow down. Some of them will start to yawn. And then they all start to relax. And I've been doing that for a while now. If I haven't on and off, probably, since my first baby. But a lot recently with my three year old just to help her relax and get ready for bed. I'd spend – so helpful.

[00:12:32] Ashley James: So you don't sing to her. Like, “It's bedtime. Okay. Wind it down. Stop playing with toys.” You're not saying anything. You just are sitting near her as she's playing. And you start to slow your breath and take deep slow breaths. And then because she has rapport with you at an unconscious level, she starts – her body starts to copy what you're doing and she also starts to breathe slow and deep. And then that calms her down and then she's able to sit with you and read some books before bed.

[00:13:03] Emily Becker: And focus and relax.

[00:13:06] Ashley James: Yeah. I love that you pointed that out. Right. It's so great because that's actually something I learned when I studied neuro-linguistic programming is this idea of rapport that when we work with our clients, we want to gain rapport with them and watch their breathing. And first, we match them how fast they're talking, the kind of tonality they're using, even the words they're using, how they're sitting, their body language, and how they're breathing. And so it's this idea of –

[00:13:34] Emily Becker: I don't want to do that with my daughter. I don't want to get that excited.

[00:13:37] Ashley James: No, no. You don't – right. Right. You wouldn't do that with her. But she has a rapport with you. But for clients who you don't necessarily have rapport with yet, we would do that to put them at ease. And then what happens is once they've gained rapport with us, then we slow down our breathing, and then they slow down their breathing. And I learned this trick for children. As a NLP practitioner, if I'm working with children who have ADD or ADHD, that having them match my breath at an unconscious level by slowing down my breathe actually helps their neurology to slow down and calm down. It gives their body unconscious permission to slow down. So I love that idea that we can just take slower deep breaths to tell the people around us that it's safe and okay to slow down and calm down. That we don't need to be in fight or flight. And that it's time for bed.

[00:14:41] Emily Becker: Yeah. It also helps me personally quiet my inner voice. Because I'm an introvert, but my mind is constantly going. And when I start taking my deep breaths, I can relax and think clearly. And then I do that also be for prayer. I don't do the 20 minutes breath work yet. But maybe I will, maybe, for prayer. Because it's it really is something that helps, just as we said, helps in layman's terms for me, seeing clearly and to slow down.

[00:15:18] Ashley James: So you had mentioned that you pray over the orders that your customers have placed before you mail them out. Have you received any feedback since you started doing that? Like, I mean, I know it's anecdotal. Did you notice any difference between before doing that and after you started praying for your clients?

[00:15:43] Emily Becker: Since I've been doing this what I've noticed is that people come back with a new energy in their emails, a new level of faith, or they're just excited about it. Something I didn't notice from other people. People will say, “Oh, this is great. This is great. This is great.” The products are, right? But after starting the prayers, what I noticed is that people have more positive outlook on what's going on. I haven't seen any miracles. I can't – as far as that goes.

I did send a very, very, very wonderful woman who was going through breast cancer one lotion. And she wasn't allowed to have any preservatives or anything like that inside. It had to be just raw ingredients. And she really needed a hand cream because when you're going through cancer and chemo, the chemo medicine dries out your skin. So I sent her a big jug of lotion to put in her fridge. Well, they did the surgery. It was all successful afterwards. And the way she lights up about how amazing that simple gift has been really rewarding. I wish I could share her passion and her excitement and love about what she received.

It's really a one on one connection. And for me, it's a three way here. Because I'm not doing this on my own. I'm doing this with God, the Father. And I'm trusting everything in him. As I do this, we talked earlier before this interview about studies and results. You can't measure divine intervention. You can only have faith in what the results are. Because good things happen without divine intervention anyways. God wants good things for us. And then sometimes it's his hands are placing people in your life. His hands are that positive voice saying, you know like, “You can do this today.” I didn't think I would share with anyone that I prayed over the orders. Because I don't do it every time there's been a few slips where I'm like, “Oh, I forgot to pray over that order.”

[00:18:16] Ashley James: But you could backdate that prayer.

[00:18:20] Emily Becker: I have.

[00:18:21] Ashley James: It's never too late.

[00:18:22] Emily Becker: I'll be like, “Oh, God. Please forgive me. I can't even remember her last name but she's an Oklahoman. Please, Lord, let this order that she receives not just be good for her but a blessing to her.” And suddenly that has changed the feedback that I have gotten. So it hasn't just been, “Oh, these are amazing products.” But, “Wow.” Maybe while we're talking here, I can pull something up. I don't want to mention anyone's names because this is very personal information, which is why I'm hesitant to share. But I also want to give praise to God. I was a late in life Born Again Christian. So I am not well versed in the Bible. I am well versed in my faith and how He's brought me to where I am. I know, I can look back and be like, “Wow. He really protected me there.”

[00:19:23] Ashley James: You had mentioned that and I just remembered something that happened when I was a kid. So I have to share it. I was maybe about – I don't know – eight or nine. And I grew up in Canada, in Ontario. And we were up in Muskoka. And it was probably February. I mean, it was cold. There was tons of ice, tons of snow. And I was hiking in the woods with my friend, Jane. We were really close to the lake up on a cliff. And I didn't realize how close we were to the cliff until I lost my footing and I began to slide backwards.

And something that I guess I just picked up from all the other kids is always saying, “Oh, my God. You know, like, “Oh, my God. Like, Oh, my God.” Right? Because I was like this little – you know, I mean this little, like, nine year old probably thinking she's like 13, right? I'm like, “Oh, my God.” And so I slipped. And I began to fall backwards and I'm sliding down this cliff. And it drops off. And there's a few stories. I mean, it's very, very high on to basically jagged rocks, open water, and ice. And it would have been death. It would have been instant. If I wouldn't have died from hitting the rocks. It would have been drowning in ice water, right? It was not – I mean, there's no way in which I would have survived that. And I yelled out, “Oh, my God.” Because I was very afraid. And that was just sort of this instant reaction. But what happened next really surprised me. All of a sudden there was a branch sticking out of the rock. And it was sort of like those cartoons where there's like a one branch tree in the middle of a cliff with no roots. And you're like, “How'd that get there?” And it and it caught my back. And I remember looking over my shoulder, like looking down at the rocks, and the ice, and the water. And being like – and I grew up in this area. Swimming in this area in the summertime. I never ever, ever saw this tree before – this branch. It was just like a branch sticking out.

The first thing I realized is I called out God's name. And I was immediately caught. And that was like – this is like a nine year old going, “Oh, my gosh.” And it hit me and I was like, “Oh, my gosh.” He saved me. And I was just there being held by this branch. And my friend, Jane, was like, “Hold on. I got to go get a rope.” And she ran back and got a rope and came back and I was held the whole time. And she got me out. And then I looked and that's when she when she pulled down and looked down and I realized that, “I don't think that was there before.” I mean, you know, maybe it was. But that was really like a very odd place for a one branch tree to grow on a side of a cliff and to be able to hold my weight and just everything. Everything, like, I could have – if I was one foot to the left or one foot to the right, I would have been gone. And so that was my first experience of hit sort of His hand and his guidance.

[00:22:39] Emily Becker: Well, literally, that's amazing.

[00:22:41] Ashley James: Right. And you just reminded me of that. That sometimes in life, there's just these events that you go, there is something more here than – I don't know – we're dead and there's nothing. Like, there's something more to this. And I wasn't sure – I think I believed conceptually, like, maybe theoretically that there was a soul. But when my mom died, I actually had an experience of her soul moving through me. I held her hand as she died. And it was about 1:00 or 1:30 in the morning. All the lights were pretty much off. It was in a hospital room. And it was just a light glow of like beeping things. She took her last breath. And even the doctor lent me their stethoscope so I could – just her heart had slowed over the course of the day because she had gone into a coma. And she had stopped moving her body, had stopped – like, she was stopped responding basically to us talking to her. So we were holding her hand and rubbing her feet and hugging her and everything the whole day. But she was gone. She was in a coma. And as she died, so she died, her heart stopped, she stopped breathing. She squeezed my hand. And it was only the hand – it wasn't like both hands squeeze, it wasn't some kind of involuntary. She grabbed – I was holding one of her hands, she squeezed it, pulled it to her heart. And then I felt an intense energy move through me and it was the color yellow. Like if you felt the color yellow. And that was one of my mom's favorite colors. And the entire room lit up yellow. Her soul was letting me know it was okay and saying goodbye.

[00:24:30] Emily Becker: That's incredible.

[00:24:32] Ashley James: That was like another big experience of mine to know that there's more here. So I'm sharing this because sometimes we disregard these amazing experiences. Because I think in the mainstream media, I don't know if they're pushing like an atheist agenda. I don't know what. And I'm not trying to push any religion on anyone. But I want to share, don't discredit things that happen and just push them to the side. Listen to these amazing miracles that could happen in your life or in other people's lives. And let that fuel you. Because I've heard people have incredible experiences through the power of prayer. Even people who are not religious have used prayer. And through that have found a closer connection to their Creator.

[00:25:28] Emily Becker: Oh, absolutely.

[00:25:31] Ashley James: Health is physical. And I have a lot of doctors on the show. And a lot of times we talk about, you know, using food as medicine or supplements. So health is physical. But there's also the spiritual aspects that we see that if someone has great physical health but has absolutely no spiritual health, that they can have a level of emptiness in their life. Sort of like a sickness on an energetic level. And a lot of times when people get really sick, they look to prayer and look to God and that –

[00:25:58] Emily Becker: Then be more positive on their outlook and they change their mindset too. They pray.

[00:26:04] Ashley James: Yes. Because there is a mind body connection. There is a kind of direct connection between the emotional body and the physical health. If we're sick emotionally or sick mentally, we can also feel those effects physically. And same with our energetic and our spiritual body. So we want to look to heal and balance all aspects of life.

So I like to leave no stone unturned. And that's why I wanted – when you said you wanted to come on and share about your experiences with the power of prayer and how much prayer has helped you in your life. I wanted to, first of all, hear your experiences. And have the listeners hear them because maybe even if one listener can gain some huge benefit from learning from you, then it'll all be worth it. But I know that when we align our thoughts with what we want versus what we don't want.

If we're going to look at neuroscience, there's a part of our brain it's in the brainstem called the reticular activating system. And it helps us to seek out what we want. But when we focus on what we don't want, so if you're constantly thinking about an illness you have, your particular activating system is going to keep filtering out your experiences to only remind you of all the illness you have. And will actually delete any evidence that you might be getting better. So the reticular activating system just helps you focus on what you're focusing on. We have this part of our brain because if we're foraging in the woods, let's say for a type of berry. A green berry in a green woods and it's really hard to see. Well, the reticular activating system helps us to identify it and seek it out. So the same goes with our attitude and our focus in life.

So if you're praying about what you want to have, blessings in your life for yourself or for others, you're actually telling your brain, your reticular activating system, to seek out and help you on the conscious level help you see the evidence and work towards achieving it.

[00:28:22] Emily Becker: I did a recent Facebook challenge with my friends on my personal page that helped people do exactly what you just said. I told them that – I gave them a little background. I said, “Sometimes I would sit and wonder if my decisions please God.” But that is assuming that God is limited. So now, instead, I wonder how God can bless my choices. So I told them to try, that their next hurdle, their next crossroad, the moment of uncertainty. And this can go for health, you know, something wrong with your health and you'd like to see better. I told him to pray for what that what you choose to do about it to me a blessed choice. And in that, you also want to have the good outcome. You don't want to sit there and pray about what bad could happen. Anyone, right? About what good do you would like to happen?

And then when that alone has brought me blessings and prayers. And that's true even with my marriage. You're like, “Oh, I want to be more involved with my family.” Or, “Eat more wholesome foods.” Or, “I really want to reconnect with my sister again.” All these little things. As soon as you start praying for them, as soon as you start thinking about them, as soon as it's close to your heart, everything changes for what you want.

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[00:29:50] Ashley James: Yes. What you're bringing up is something that I talked about in my course, the Free Your Anxiety course.

[00:29:56] Emily Becker: I love that course.

[00:29:57] Ashley James: My Free Anxiety course which is available on the website, learntruehealth.com in the menu section there. But you've done – it's funny. You've done day one through 15 a few times. You got to finish the course. It's like the ending is good too.

[00:30:11] Emily Becker: Okay. [Inaudible] [00:30:12] stuff that I'm familiar with. And I want to have the positive rewiring [inaudible] [00:30:18].

[00:30:21] Ashley James: I love it. I love that you're doing it repeatedly. That's actually really great to wire it in the stuff that you're learning. But one thing I talk about is focusing on what you want versus what you don't want. And what you're saying is when you pray – I think this is really important – that you catch your language instead of saying like, “Dear God. Please don't allow my husband to get in a car crash today. And please don't let my kids fail at school.” I mean, I know I'm being like kind of over exaggerating. But we do this where we focus on what we don't want to have happen. And that is creating the stress response in the body. And that's not actually helping us focus on what we do want to have happen or we do want to create in our life. And so we have to catch our language. When we say what we don't want to have happen, we have to catch our language and go, “Oh, okay. I'm not actually saying what I want. I'm just saying a bunch of what I don't want. So what do I want?” And then say that. So my example is – when I first learned this lesson – every year I slipped on ice and fell and bruised my tailbone. And this is up in Canada. And I learned this lesson about focusing on what we do want to have happen in our internal dialogue. And I caught myself, it's around February, we just had an ice rain. I was walking to my car and everything was icy. And I started to feel my feet slip. And I just knew the next step would be, like, a bruised bum. And I caught myself and I heard my inner dialogue say, “I don't want to slip. I don't want to slip. I don't want to slip.” And I'm like, “Oh my, gosh. I'm doing it.” I'm focusing on what I don't want to have happen.

And we do it so naturally because I think it's part of our – I don't know if it's just part of our culture. Or maybe it's a bit of, I think, the pessimists are the ones that survived. All the optimists kind of ran into bears in the woods and they didn't procreate. So all of our ancestors were basically pessimists. So we kind of got the pessimists gene down path. Because the pessimists were like, “Well, there's probably a bear over there. So I'm not going to go over there.” So they're looking out for the negative things and avoided them long enough to procreate and pass down the genes. So we were taught that it's safe to be a pessimist because you if you think about a lot of bad things that could go wrong, then you could avoid them. But the problem with that is, when we think about what we don't want to have happen, we're constantly triggering the stress response in the body. But we're also telling the reticular activating system in the brain to focus on what we don't want to have happen instead of what we do want to have happen. And so when good things actually do happen, sometimes our brain can't even see it or perceive it, or take up that opportunity.

And so in that moment, when I was catching myself slipping on the ice, I went, “Well, what's the opposite of I don't want to slip.” And that was a really hard one because I was so used to thinking about what I don't want to have happen. And then I had to go, “Okay. Well, I want to say, walk safely. Okay.” So I told myself, “I want to walk safely.” I imagined myself walking safely to my car. I imagine like there's little bear claws coming out of my boots and allowing me to walk safely. And then I did. And I didn't slip. And I have not slipped — knock on wood. I haven't slept since. And that was, like, 19 years ago.

So to give you that idea that we can catch ourselves in prayer and also out of prayer. When we're focusing on what we don't want to have happen by stating the negative. Like, “I don't want this to happen.” We have to catch ourselves and say, “Well, what do I want to have happen?” And focus on that instead. Because the reticular activating system will delete, distort, and generalize the information coming to us. So through our eyes, and our ears, through all of our senses, will delete, distort, and generalize before it reaches our consciousness. And so our reality is dependent on what we focus on. You and I, Emily, could go to a movie. And we could both walk out with totally different opinions about that movie with the same movie. But you and I saw different things and experienced different things because our unconscious mind deletes the source and generalized filters the information before we get to experience it consciously. So we have to catch ourselves and the languaging.

I'll give you one example before – as I have a question for you. So I know that you and I have the same doctor mentor. This doctor, we talked about him and Episode 340. This doctor who helped me nine years ago reverse my type 2 diabetes, my chronic adrenal fatigue, my chronic infertility, and my polycystic ovarian syndrome. He helped me reverse those with diet and supplements. And I had an opportunity to actually learn from him about a-year-and-a-half before I did. But this is a perfect example because I was listening to a podcast or some kind of radio show or some kind of alternative media and he was being interviewed. And my reticular activating system at a time, I was focusing on, “I don't have enough money. I don't have enough money. I'm broke. I can't have money.” I was focusing –

[00:36:05] Emily Becker: Absolutely. I had the same thing happen.

[00:36:10] Ashley James: I was focusing on not having enough money.  And so when I heard the interview, my thought was, “That sounds really interesting, but I don't have enough money.” And so I did not pursue any of his information because it just sound – I was, in my mind, it was like a brick wall. “Well, I don't have enough money. So I shouldn't even pursue the information.” Now, if I had not – if my reticular activating system, if I had not programmed my brain by constantly thinking about, “I don't have enough money. I don't have enough money.” If I hadn't done that, I would have listened to him then and I would have gone, “Wow. I need to dive into his information further.” I may have gone to the library for free and gotten some of his books. I may have listened to more interviews with him. I may have called into his radio show. There's so many ways I could have – he has a supplement that's like $24. I could have afforded that. I should have got on that. And the diet that he recommends, I could have gotten that information for free. Lots of stuff, I could have done it. I could have begun my healing journey then, a-year-and-a-half before I did. But the little thought in my head was, “I can't. I can't because I don't have enough money.” And then it was a brick wall and I stopped taking any action.

And a-year-and-a-half later, I was in the same financial situation but I heard the information again. And my husband is the one that said, “We need to pursue this. This sounds like this could be the answer for you.” And it's because the him that I picked up the phone and started to take action. And thank God I did. But this is a prime example of how we limit ourselves, like you said, God will present the right people in your path. But it's up to us to see that those people are there – that they've been put there in our path. And luckily, that doctor was putting my path again and the information came back to me. And then my husband heard it and he was helping me see the light. But that's the thing, we have to catch are unconscious mining and see, “Am I blocking myself from moving forward because I'm focusing on what I don't want to have happen instead of what I do want to have happen.”

[00:38:33] Emily Becker: Well, we can run from what He wants us to do all we want, but He still wants us to do it. And He wants us to get there. I can relate to that. Because my husband is the one who's like, “Oh, there's a seminar.” We ordered exactly what later would have recommended for me, just guessing what we needed. We were like, “Okay. Was this is brand new? Let's get this. This seems to be the right one.” Then we went to the seminar and then when I spoke to him, he's like, “This is exactly what you need to do.” We went home that day and my husband is like, “We're going to do this. We're going to listen.” And I wasn't able to even have a negative thought because it was just happening.

[00:39:17] Ashley James: But if you had been left on your own, you might have been like, “Oh, we can't do this.”

[00:39:22] Emily Becker: Right. Right. And I prayed for all these good things and they're right in front of me. I had to be the one who took advantage of the people. I had take advantage of the tools. To take advantage of the gifts.  And, like you were saying, like, financially, you can always never afford what you want. If you think about it, “I can't afford it.” Just like this business, I cannot afford to start my business. But all I had to do is say, “Hey, honey. I'm going to take away from my family if I ask for a little bit of money.” I was like, “You know what? Okay. People are asking for these remedies. I got to ask.” It was an immediate easy, yes. But anyways, so my husband got me to that doctor, to that lecture. And then was very supportive in ways that I never thought he would be. Like throwing the gluten out of the house. I was amazed that he would even do that.

[00:40:32] Ashley James: That's awesome. Never underestimate your husband's desire for you to be healthy. Because I think a lot of times I never thought my husband – man, he's given up so much. When I met him, he was on ice cream and he drink. I mean, you know, he was on Monster Energy drinks. He was on venti coffees. He was on sugar and dairy and gluten. I think, that's all he ate. That was his diet. It was like ice cream, coffee, Monsters, and gluten – like Monster Energy drinks. That's was his entire diet. And now, all he eats is vegetables. It's just amazing.

[00:41:05] Emily Becker: Some incredible change.

[00:41:06] Ashley James: Right. But never underestimate the power of your husband's desire for you to be healthy environment.

[00:41:14] Emily Becker: That's all your inner voice. I asked my husband once I was like, “How do you not think these horrible negative thoughts?” And he's, “You just push them out.” And I like, “You make it sound so easy.” But you literally do it just through your cores, just the way he said it. It's like, personally for me, I see it as Satan trying to whisper into your ear just like he whispered into Eve's at the tree. It's like, “Eat that fruit. That's going to be good.” And he doesn't want good things for you. And he will whisper lies into your ear. He's not God. He's nothing. You can push all of that out. You got to do it over and over and over and over. But eventually, he starts to shut up. And then you can have more faith and live more positively.

Before this interview, you had asked some questions about what miracles are out there.

[00:42:10] Ashley James: Well, my thing is that there's always that part of me that thinks, “Well, what if it's all just coincidence.” And I'm sure other people feel that way too. Because that's what faith is. It's blind, right? God hasn't come down and been like, “Hello” in person, right? So there has –

[00:42:30] Emily Becker: He wants you to have a relationship with him. It's a scientific thing. It's not divine. Because he is more than just what he's created here on Earth. He's the Creator. So to have faith and healing, you can't measure it. You can look at statistics which I've done, if you're interested in that at all.

[00:42:54] Ashley James: I am interested.  I think it's fun. Because then you start to go, “Wow. That's more than a coincidence.” So my thing is I think some people go, “What if prayer is just coincidence?” Like, let's say, you never prayed over for anything. When your husband would have still told you to go that health lecture and still got you on supplements and thrown out the gluten. Did prayer really do that? Or is it all just coincidence? Right? So what's interesting is when we look at the statistics that they've done studies on the power of prayer. And they try to be non objective because, really, they just want to pull the information together and go, “Let's just look and see. Is it just coincidence or is it more times than not that prayers help with the positive outcome?” So yeah, please share. And these statistics are – these studies are online. The National Institutes of Health –

[00:43:52] Emily Becker: The government page, PubMed NCBI, they're all doctor articles. When you're going through them, it's really amazing to see how little faith they have. But they have the numbers. How do they come up with finding that 71 percent of clinical studies and 62 percent of the laboratory studies reported positive outcomes for distinct healing? And by distant healing, they refer to for prayer. After the studies, they're like, “Well, you know -” they were given names of people. And how do we know that there weren't multiple people with that name? Or, they look at it at a scientific view where God knows the hearts of  people who are praying, So they have the numbers.

[00:44:40] Ashley James: Can you go through the numbers? So 71 percent was what?

[00:44:44] Emily Becker: In one study, Dr. Crawford examined the quality of studies of hands on healing and distant healing. And this was published between 1955 and 2000 — or at least those studies were published between 1955 and 2001.

[00:45:02] Ashley James: How many studies did they look at? Or how many people were involved? So there was 90 different studies. But they split them in half, 45 of them were clinical settings and 45 were laboratory studies settings. What they found was that 71 percent of the clinical studies and 62 percent of the laboratory studies both reported positive outcomes. And that's pretty good outcomes, in my opinion. And we also reported that the overall internal validity of the studies on healing was 75 percent for the clinical investigations. And 81 percent for the laboratory investigations. They're able to say that these are valid studies with high percentage positive outcomes.

[00:45:50] Emily Becker: Did they split it up so that there was like a group of people that weren't prayed for and a group that were prayed for?

[00:45:58] Ashley James: In this specific study, they didn't have a control group. I also looked at another one with a control group. And that's where they claim, “Well, they – ” you know, someone from the control group could have the same name as someone from the not controlled group. Because they're – in those studies, they would get like a name to pray for, just the first name. And so they don't consider the results valid in those situations. Another study conducted a systematic review of the literature on the efficacy of any form of distant healing as a treatment for any medical condition. And it included 23 trials, which totaled 2,774 patients. They met the inclusion criteria. And they were all subjected to analysis of these studies. Thirteen, about 57 percent, yielded statistically significant treatment effects favoring distant healing. And then nine of the studies showed no superiority of distant healing over control interventions. And only one showed a negative effect for distant healing.

[00:47:13] Ashley James: Well, that still sounds better than drug trials where people, like still die. And the drug still gets approved. Only five people died in our study drug approved, right?  Interesting. Like, you're throwing out numbers like 71 percent, 62 percent, 57 percent. These are all more than 50 percent. Anyone would take these numbers to Vegas. Interesting.

[00:47:43] Emily Becker: We can rely on prayer. But sometimes we got to know what God wants us to do. We got to trust what God wants us to do.

[00:47:50] Ashley James: I like that you brought that up because you said earlier that things come to you through prayer. And that's how you know or that's how maybe you're figuring  out what God wants for you. I always thought prayer was a one way street.

[00:48:05] Emily Becker: No. He wants a relationship. And he doesn't – we're not here to fill his plan. He has his own plan. But He can use everybody in ways that you won't even know. Even people who don't believe in God, He'll place them in your life to help you get to the next step. And He wants good things for everyone. If He has chosen you to do something, it's going to happen.

[00:48:33] Ashley James: Sorry. You're reminding of Jonah and the Whale.

[00:48:36] Emily Becker: Yeah. I thought a lot about that today, too, before this interview. I was just like, “You know, you can run and run and run. But His will be done.” And a lot of ways – a lot of where I am today, when I first started running a business, I would be like, “God. I need this. I need this. I need this. I need this.” and what I've realized is that He wants the favor – I don't know if this is the right words. I don't want to be held accountable for this. But He wants retort. He wants us to have this relationship where when He gives me everything that I asked for that He wants people to hear my praise for him. And through that I, personally, am a tool for connecting other people with Him and strengthening their relationship with Him by giving praise. I would ask, “I just really want to help this person and get them to feel better.” Well, a lot of the times, I'd be like, “I need $50. I need $130 to make this happen for this person.” And the condition of I want and I need and all that stuff wasn't being blessed. He wasn't doing anything for me. He didn't want to have anything to do with that. And when I started to ask, “How can I use this to praise you? Can we make this work together so we can help these people? Can I start this business so I can help these people? And then also bring people closer to you, God. And somehow, for me, that's where I started to become successful, just being open and being myself.

I've thought about doing a YouTube channel of like, “Let's be real.” I'm not a good person. I fall all the time. I swear. I'm not the person to look to.  But I feel like God who wants me to share my story to help other people to come to him to prayer. And praying has changed my life so much that God can use a doctor to restore someone's arm. And that's an amazing gift – ability. Something [inaudible]  [00:51:08] and I'm not going to be that doctor. I'm going to be a different tool to help people get better and to strengthen their relationship with Him.

[00:51:19] Ashley James: I like that idea, what kind of tool can I be to help others? Helping us get out of our ego. When we're in service, they've looked at mental health and volunteering and service. And they see that those who are suicidal and depressed, like clinically depressed, when they volunteer, when they actively on a regular basis volunteer, it lifts depression, it creates joy. And there's even studies to show that it increases longevity. That the more that we give ourselves, it fulfills us, it brings us joy. And it also decreases our stress. Surrounds us with a community. Because when you volunteer, most of the time you're also around others who are volunteering, you create a community, you're part of a community. But those people end up living longer, happier lives. And so giving of ourselves to help others actually helps us more. It's like that it comes back to us more.

I heard, I think, it was Neale Donald Walsch. I went to one of his weekend workshops about five years ago. And Neale said, “You know, carry around some extra money.” Like, he says he carries around 20s. And he calls it his walking money. Now, he's a millionaire. So he gives away 20s all day long. Anytime he sees someone in need, he gives them a 20. He says, “You know, maybe for you that's $1. Maybe have like $5 in your wallet and that's the $5 you're going to give away to people this week.” And he goes, “Don't care if they're going to buy alcohol with it. Don't stop the flow. You're passing on. You're blessing someone. And let them – you know, maybe they're going to go buy food with it or pay for their shelter or buy new socks. Whatever they're going to do with it is their business. You're just blessing someone in need.” And so anytime he finds someone in need, like maybe someone is struggling to pay their grocery bill, he'll like jump in and pay for it. Or he'll pay for the person behind him at Starbucks, who knows, or someone who's homeless. But he's always looking to help. And he says, “You give that person like $5 or $1 and you notice how good you feel.” He says. “It's like a high. You feel more joy from giving than that person will ever get from receiving.”

And that's probably why that client of yours, she loves that cream that you gave her. But you have twice as much joy out of the act of gifting it to her than she'll ever get from receiving it. And so the business that you're doing in that, you're helping clients. But when you do, the charity work you do it is giving you so much purpose and joy. And so when we can connect with others and ask ourselves, “How can I be a tool to help others?” And focusing on that, the ego can't live there. The ego melts away when we're in service.

[00:54:48] Emily Becker: Yeah. How can we serve each other? And that can go from your relationship with your husband or your sisters or your neighbors and people you don't know. Just when you put their needs first, it's so rewarding. And that goes for my customers too. And I'm not perfect. I've had mistakes. I've had refunds. I've had fallouts. But you can't let that bring you down. And you just got to keep serving. Because not everyone's going to like what you have to offer. And you, personally, are always – we're human, we make mistakes. And you just find ways that you don't hold on to that. You continue to serve. You continue to help people. And just work hard for others.

[00:55:38] Ashley James: Right. Well, every business has returns. And as long as you learn from the returns, like a broken bottle in shipping or something, you learn from it. And then you give great customer service. And you don't let ego get in the way. Then you're growing as a business. You're a real business now. This isn't a hobby. So you're going to have these bumps. But as long as you learn from them, your business will keep improving.

[00:56:06] Ashley James: Speaking of praise — well, not praise. But speaking of my business, I am now a legitimate company with the Department of Wisconsin revenue. Anyways, I'm a real business now. And I have taxes to pay. And I am the owner of Emily's Remedies. I'm no longer just doing this as myself. I have the business. And that might not seem like a whole lot different. But for me, it's this huge blessing. I am functioning more as a company. And that's something I've always wanted to do. And to operate less as a hobby and more as a professional. Because everybody deserves that professional quality. And as a hobby, I was pushing out orders from three days to a month. And that's no way to treat a customer. Since this business, it's been my goal to get orders out right away. To start bringing what I have to my community – my new community since they moved. And just to treat people with – and you have a responsibility of people's money and their expectations of the product. Every single jar, everything that I make, all the soaps that I've introduced are made with the same quality as the very first one I ever made.

[00:57:31] Ashley James: For yourself.

[00:57:33] Emily Becker: For myself, yeah.

[00:57:33] Ashley James: And for your family and the people you love. You know, I wish every business owner was as conscientious and caring as you. You put your heart and soul into it. And we can hear that. And I like following you on Facebook to see – every time you put post orders, every time you mail them out, you announce it. And you don't rush when you make your products. You make it so that the quality is there. But you do rush – once they're in the jars, you do rush as much as you can to get the packages out because you want people to get their orders as fast as possible. And you put so much into it. This is exactly what it's like to start a business from the ground up. And I know that we're going to see you, like, on Shark Tank in a few years or something like that. You're going to keep growing and we're going to see you continue to expand. And you will always keep the same amount of hurt as you did with the very first bottle or jar. And that's what we want from every business owner is this conscientious business. This is what we want from every single business owner, to have a love of their customer and a love the quality of their product and to never compromise either one. And that's why I love buying something from you or from someone who is doing it with their own hands. And you're investing with their own time and energy to be able to create the quality products. Knowing that it's pure ingredients. So I love that. I love that you're this example of the kind of business owner that we all should be that takes the time to give great customer service and really, really cares about each customer.

[00:59:23] Emily Becker: Yeah. I really love having a connection with my customers because every order and then I said or – I mean, you know, most of the orders I get, I am like, “Oh, please give me all feedback. I want to know everything that's bad. And I want to know what other ways I can help the these people who are ordering.” Because I love when you start having connection and conversation with your customers. You get to know them hen you can serve them better the next time. And that's my favorite part is just this expanse of connections that I'm getting. And it gets a little bit hard sometimes because there's a lot of people who want to talk to me. But I'm so grateful for all of them. And I try my best to be there for all of them.

[01:00:13] Ashley James: Can we go back to when you first started to pray? You weren't really – I mean, you said you believe in God but you didn't really have a relationship with God. And you weren't really, like, Christian. But you're very sick. You had your alopecia and your other health issues that you talked more about in Episode 340. Can you remember the first time you prayed for your health?

[01:00:39] Emily Becker: I remember – okay. So I was living in fear in my head. And I knew my husband was a very strong Christian. And I would be like, “Oh, can you please pray for this.” And wake him up and like, “I'm scared.” Just I don't know where. Like, I can't sleep or whatever. And I say, “Can you pray for me? And he would. And that's when I realized I need to take responsibility and action for myself. I sought help. I called a woman who helped me learn how to pray. She's an incredible woman. And she taught me to say things that I used to be afraid of saying. Like, “In the name of Jesus Christ, please give me this.” Or, “In the name of Jesus Christ, evict these thoughts,” and stuff like that. And that's when she was teaching me how to pray. Because before, if I tried to pray, it was like, “Please don't let this happen to me, you know, like evict them.” Instead of someone of faith and courage and confidence.

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[01:01:47] Ashley James: You're focusing on what you didn't want to have happen.

[01:01:49] Emily Becker: Yeah. So she taught me how to pray. And I can almost remember the day, I want to say it was January 4, late at night, in 2012. I started to pray that ,”God -” instead of that I wouldn't be bald anymore. That God would bring me healing. That was my first prayer. I would still sometimes break down and be like, “I don't want this to happen to me.” But now and then I'd remind myself. I knew all the things that were negative. I don't like looking at – I'm like, “I don't want to be – when I look in the mirror, God, I want to see someone beautiful.” Instead of praying for that, I wanted healing. And then within a month, my husband was like, “This doctor is in town. We got to go to the seminar.” Just like, I wasn't even thinking, “Oh, he's going to help me with my hair.” I wasn't even hopeful. I was like, “Oh, yeah, we got to go get healthier.” Maybe my husband was more conscious what was going on. But for me, it was just being like someone taking my hand and guiding me. It was then – oh gosh – that was that was really hard because I used everything. Even the good things, I was fearful of, you know? But I was like, “Okay. God, please, I need you in my life. I need your help.” I started praying for healing. And then after that, it just all started to happen.

And then after practice and just experience, I stopped focusing and praying for things not to happen. I started praying for all the good things. And then when I was going through this prayer stage of learning how to pray, I had this unbelievable desire to cleanse both physically and spiritually of everything that was eating away at me. I even did a private – I did my own baptism. I was just like, “I need to be washed.” I got in the bathtub. I was home alone. I looked online, I was like, “What do I say to be baptized?” And some people think you need to have someone there to do it for you. And I did that later in life where I was baptized with someone. But I washed myself clean. And then I started to work on evicting those negative thoughts. And for me, it was a spiritual experience. As I cleansed my spiritual being, I was able to work towards healing my physical being. And as I prayed to God for healing and for all these burdens and weights to be lifted from me of my past and from my health, he was more than willing to do it. And sometimes it was, God it's a yes. The answer is yes, no, or later. I find a lot more that he has a later in there, in my personal experience.

It's like, “Okay. This is what your heart wants. We're going to work on you to help you get there.” That's how I am here today with a business, with long hair, with confidence, feeling beautiful, and just a completely different person, really.

[01:05:20 Ashley James: Beautiful. I love the transformation that you've made since 2012. It's beautiful. You've grown your health spiritually and attended your health physically, and mentally and emotionally. You know, you're looking at all aspects of your life and bring it all into balance. And if we were to go back and talk to Emily from 2012, she would not believe that the Emily now could be possible. Right?

[01:05:52] Emily Becker: Yeah. Absolutely.

[01:05:56] Ashley James: And so no matter how bad it gets in life – and that's something I really want us to teach the young generation, Generation Z I believe they're calling it or Zed, between the ages of 10 and 24. Because in the last ten years, suicide has risen to be the second cause – second leading cause of death among –

[01:06:19] Emily Becker: Isn't that horrible?

[01:06:21] Ashley James: Yeah. It's risen. It's something crazy like 52 percent or something. But it's totally skyrocketed because of social media, because of the way our culture has changed drastically over one generation. They're left feeling devastated if one bad thing happens or online. Because the bullying is constant. They feel isolated, alone. And how they're feeling right now is it's like how they're going to feel for the rest of their life.

[01:06:54] Emily Becker: Yeah. You don't feel like anything good could happen when you're developing. Everything is forever. And if you're being bullied, you feel like this is how you're going to feel forever.

[01:07:12] Ashley James: And it isn't. The Emily that was depressed, and afraid, and scared, and afraid of everything even good, like you said, back in 2012, that Emily could not perceive of the Emily you are now. And yet you worked on it bit by bit. And you addressed your health on all levels, meaning physical, mental, emotional, spiritual. You addressed it on all levels. And you looked at, also, getting outside of your own head and helping others. And look at what you've evolved. And that's what we can all do. Wherever we are in our life right now, no matter what our age is, no matter what our health level is, the person we are now is nothing compared to the magnificent person that we can become. And we are [inaudible] [01:08:08] right now. But we can become this unrecognizable –

[01:08:13] Emily Becker: You realize how magnificent you are.

[01:08:15] Ashley James: Right. The sky is the limit. But for those who are depressed, who have anxiety, who have fear, who have thought of suicide, life in a few years can be so brilliant, so amazing that you wouldn't want to give it up for anything. Like, it could just be so amazing. And you can grow that even in chronic illness. Because I know, Emily, back in 2012, you thought that's how your life is going to be for the rest of your life. And doctors will tell you that you're going to have this condition for the rest of your life. Many people are suffering with a chronic condition and they've been told by doctors that they're going to have it for the rest of their life. And that doesn't mean they have to suffer though. That doesn't mean you know –  we can reverse diseases. We can manage them. We can gain health. Even in the face of terminal illness, we can still increase the quality of life and bring in joy. So it's always more. You can always get better. But we have to look at every aspect of health. So not just diet. Diet is great. And emotional health and mental health and spiritual health looking at it all and start by asking, by praying, by asking and focus on what you want. Can you give us some steps for those who maybe are rusty at praying or haven't prayed before? And have been inspired by what you've shared and they want to start praying. Can you share some steps, like how do we pray?

[01:10:00] Emily Becker: I went through the same thing. I had no idea how to pray. What I find to be useful is some people like to do affirmations. And I've never – I'm so busy that I don't go looking for someone's [inaudible] [01:10:16]. What I like to do is, I like to get a piece of paper. What I'll do is, I will write down who I want to pray for, what I'd like for myself, and also something to give, if I have something to give praise about. And I'll write it down and then just the act of writing it down, gets your mind to start to think about it. And then when you're ready, for me, personally, it's that moment like after the kids go to bed. I'll be like, “I have this on my heart and mind.” Or the next time I see that piece of paper – I leave it right at my nightstand.

It's usually just one thing. One does five things. But really, you can just start with one thing. It can be something simple like, “God, I've been really struggling in this area. I want to start to have more energy for work and for my kids and for my husband.” So it can be something as simple as having more energy. And then when I wake up in morning, I see that paper. I look at it and I'll be like, “Oh, yeah. That's important to meet God. God, this is important to me. Can you please help me?”

So from this interview, I reached out to you because I want to thank your supporters. I can't talk to everybody. So I wanted to reach out to all my customers somehow. Because I get a lot of emails and I also want to let them know that I'm thinking of them. So for me, that's what's on my heart. And so I'm going to pray with you if that's okay, Ashley.

[01:11:52] Ashley James: Sure.

[01:11:54] Emily Becker: And just to give people an idea how to pray. Because sometimes we don't pray because we don't hear it and we're not around it. It's not something we exercise. And someone else starts. I like to give praise. I like to acknowledge God as God. I like to give thanks  for the good things that he's given me. And then I ask for what's on my heart. And then I can clear it with trust and confidence and faith. And a lot of how I got this is from the Lord's prayer that Jesus Himself prayed. The people are asking, “How do we pray?” And then He prayed. He told them to pray the Lord's Prayer. And you can Google that. But I'm going to do my own prayer.

Thank you, Heavenly Father, for this opportunity to be with Ashley James on the Learn True Health podcast. And for bringing this opportunity to me. Thank you so much, Lord, for all the all the people who have reached out to me. We're grateful for a relationship. I trust that they are grateful for me. And I am so grateful for how you are using them to transform me. Lord, I thank you for this opportunity to be on a podcast praying. This is incredible 2020 or 2018 to be here giving praise. I ask that my supporters know that you want good things for them. And they can rely on you and that they will continue to come seek your help. And to be blessed by the things that are given to them. I ask that you place people and tools in their lives to bring them health and healing, both spiritually and physically. We pray these things in Jesus Christ's name your Son, amen.

And it can be a lot shorter than that.

[01:13:57] Ashley James: I hear that you started out with a lot of gratitude.

[01:14:00] Emily Becker: Yes. Yes. I do. And it helps me to condition my heart to not be selfish. Because I told you about that in the past where I tried to be helpful to people. But I was never grateful. And that changed. That also helped me in my prayers and my growth.

[01:14:30] Ashley James: So you would help people but then you weren't really – there wasn't gratitude there. So it was still, maybe, selfish intentions. Which when we're living – when we're coming from, the selfishness, we're coming from the fear. We're afraid of the lack of – so how much can we really help others when we're focusing on how little money we have or little time we have or little energy we have. How much could we actually help others? And then if we go to help others, then we resent them because they've taken off our precious time, money, or energy. And so it becomes this ego of resentment and feeling like they should be more grateful for what I've done for them because I had to sacrifice my time and whatever. And it doesn't become rewarding. Because we're coming from ego. And our fear, we're coming from this fear of a lack of. And when we bring gratitude and we become grateful for the money we do have and the time we do have. Even though we have a little bit of it, right? What do we have and become grateful for it and thankful for what we do have and ask for help. And ask for – you know, focusing on the positive direction that we want, the outcome to go in for ourselves and others. Coming from that, that kind of bounty focusing on – because you know what?

Even though I could be perceiving myself as not having a lot of money, I am so fortunate to have a roof over my head. I'm so fortunate to have food in my fridge, to have the electricity on, to have the heat on . I could spend the next hour talking about how grateful I am for all the things I do have that other people don't. And I could take a little bit of my money at the end of the month and see if I could help someone else become a little bit more comfortable. Maybe handout blankets. I could go to a thrift store and buy clean used blankets and go hand them out to the shelters. Or I could go through all my closets and things that we're not using and donate it to the battered women's shelter. You know what I mean? We can help people become more fortunate. Right? So it doesn't mean it has to be a sacrifice for us. But if we're focusing on the ego and all the stuff we don't have, then from that perspective, we can't actually be of service and help others. But I love that most of your prayer is actually gratitude and grounding yourself in how grateful you are for what we have.

[01:17:19] Emily Becker: Hold on, I'm just breathing. I'm practicing the breath work here. And I am so grateful. Well, I mean, as much as I'd like to win souls for Jesus, that's not why I'm here. I'm here – well, I think, as Christians and as anyone you should surround yourself and try to serve and reach as many people as you can whatever you are. If you were a doctor who could sew a finger back on, you wouldn't want to only surround yourself with other doctors. You're going to want to help everybody you can. You want to find the person who's got the missing finger. You want to be that tool for them. And I think it's a great opportunity for me to be able to be this tool for some people. And that said  alone, I have so many who are tools for me. I have family that have really helped me along the way spiritually.

Just like the 2012 me, I don't think I would have known I can be who I've become without them. I don't – there's a purpose for everything. And I have a lot of more confidence and a lot more things. And for me, it's a spiritual growth.

[1:19:09] Ashley James: I love that you're willing to learn. And I love that you're vulnerable enough to come share with us, share your experience. So in your prayers, have you ever felt the God is talking to you? Have you ever gotten a message?

[01:19:25] Emily Becker: Oh, yes.

[01:19:26] Ashley James: Can you talk a little bit about that? So I was raised Anglican. I have friends that are Mormon. And they've shared with me that in the LDS church, they incorporate fasting, meditation, deep, deep prayer. And the elders in the church are going to make like a decision about something that they fast and they do deep long meditative prayers. And that they receive answers. And that shocked me because I was kind of raised to believe that it's a one way street. That you just – you know, you recite the Lord's Prayer, you do communion, you basically state where you believe.

[01:20:12] Emily Becker: [Inaudible]  [01:20:12].

[01:20:14] Ashley James: Right. Right. I believe in the Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins. You just repeat these things that you're taught to say in church. And that you pray. But there's no God talking to you. Like, it's a one way street. This is just how I was raised. And then I started to hear from other people and other religions or other – I don't know -some people believe Mormonism is totally separate from Christianity. Others believe it's just like a division or flavor of Christianity. But basically, I've heard from many different people, that they were raised differently than me, that in different churches that they're actually receiving messages. And so some people would say, “Well, that must be Satan.” Or other people say, “Well, that's just your brain. That's just your brain filling in the gaps. That's nothing.” So this is again where faith comes in, right? Because what do you believe? And there's no – no one can prove it or disprove it, right? But what is your experience? So your experiences your reality. And your reality is not my reality. But that's where faith comes in. So I was really surprised to hear from many people that they're actually receiving information when they do go through prayer.

And a dear, dear friend of mine who's had two near death experiences, he's died twice. And he has recollection – very clear recollection of meeting God both times. And he receives information when he prays. And he is a wonderful being and I love him. And he gets filled with – he says he's filled with the Holy Spirit. He gets goosebumps. And he is dead on. He actually has been – I don't want to say prophesizes. But he'll be told things or know things before it happens. And he's very, very Christian. And so he'll get goosebumps. His whole body is filled with goosebumps. You can look at his skin, it's all goosebumps. And anytime he goes to make a decision in his life, he prays and then he gets filled with goosebumps. If that's the direction you're supposed to go in. And he says anytime, let's say, he really wants something. Like he really wants to buy this car and he prays about it, but he doesn't get filled with the Holy Spirit. But then, he buys it anyway because it's like ego. His ego really wants it. The car breaks down immediately. It's like every single time. But whenever he makes a decision no matter how – like buying a house, like big, big decisions, or little decisions, anytime he makes a decision and he's filled with the Holy Spirit and when he's praying, and he goes for it, it always works out. And he goes, it's like 100 percent success rate. So like I hear from these different people as I'm talking to them but their experience of prayer and it's very personal. So I just wanted to hear from your very personal experience when you pray, how does God talk to you?

[01:23:17] Emily Becker: This is very personal. Well, I get all – I when I asked for things, a lot of times what I receive – and I think it's because I'm still trying to figure filter out language here. But I'll ask for things, I will get a clear yes or no or a jumble sentence that I don't understand. I don't think my confidence, my faith, or that I'm ready for his answer is what I get.

But I do get a lot of yeses and noes. And as you pray, I've actually invited – you can invite the Holy Spirit into your home. And I did a lot of that. When I was going through my fear phase, I would pray and ask – I would welcome the Holy Spirit into my home. And you can feel that physically, just like you said, your friend feels it. You get chills. And there's this new atmosphere in your home that's brighter and lighter and warmer. And that's what I experienced.

I have family who's – oh, I wonder if I need his permission. I won't use any names. But I have family who – when he challenged me to do something because he had an incredible experience. He said he was able to pray from the third heaven. And honestly, I don't know what that means. But he was able to pray and be in heaven just for a moment and looked down on earth. And he challenged me to try that. And out of fear and understanding, I haven't done it. I think a lot of times that's why I can't understand all of the messages from God is that I still am growing in my faith. How much do I honestly trust them with take full control of everything. And it's a process.  And I have prayed for – I'm trying to think – because I go through phases where I pray more often and speak – just like you do with any relationship, you go through phases where you connect stronger at times with someone. I was praying in private. And I would ask – I wonder what it was. Sometimes it helps to remember what you're going through. I know what it was. Okay. My husband had – we went through this long process of getting his remote work approved.

[01:26:42] Ashley James: To work from home for his job?

[01:26:44] Emily Becker: Yeah. For his job. So we could move out of the cities and into his hometown. And when he did that, I started praying. And I was like – I even asked, I was like, “God, will his remote work be approved?” And I got a single word answer yes. But then I was so impatient. It just was such a long, ongoing process. I'd be like, “Okay. God, when is this going to happen?” And then I started to lose faith that it was going to happen. And then I asked again, I was like, “God, is his remote work request going to be approved?” And I got another yes. And I was like, “God, can you please make it, you know, next week?” And then I get that garbled and I don't understand. And then my own thoughts and wouldn't be able to raise receive anything. But from that alone, I learned to just be patient.

I think before earlier in this interview, we talked about how a lot of his answers in my personal experience have been later. Because God wants miracles to happen but sometimes He's setting everything up like a domino effect to give you your answer. Well, He already has His answer but He's setting it up so it can happen wonderfully for Him and be good for you.

I asked once – you know, this is really personal. And I don't know what the results are going to be because it's – the prayer hasn't been answered. But I prayed once for my father-in-law's eyes  to return sight. And he has gone through all different kinds of health adventures, I would say. He's done every diet. He's done everything even that I have done to try to restore his sight. And it's only gotten worse over the years. And I've been personally praying that he would be able to see. And once in faith asked God, I was praying for him. I was like, “God, my father-in-law, will he be able to see again?” And I got us cleaning straight answer yes. And now, in faith, I don't know what to do. It's like, “Okay. Well, is it going to be that he's going to be able to see again when he gets to heaven?” Or, “Is he going to be healed on earth? Are we going to see this miraculous healing?” And I don't know what the answer is. But I'm going to continue to pray for him. And to just wait and see and trying to receive God.

And you had – I know I sidetracked a little bit. You had asked if I've heard God. And the answer is yes. And sometimes I don't understand what he's saying. And sometimes it is a very clear message. And as far as the tingles and the chills, I get them right now when you were talking earlier in truth about the kids being depressed. I could feel that chill and that truth. And God is the Creator of all things that are true. And when you can – you have to have faith. And I don't know if everyone gets the same tools. Because there's some people who have reported having out of body experiences. Well, not all of us are going to have that. Not all of us are going to have the same relationship because we all have a unique relationship with God. He's going to give us different gifts when we ask for them, or when we try to use them, or whatever the situation is. But when you do, you want to do it and to serve Him, I think, is the keys. How can you use these gifts to serve Him. And for me, I think a lot of how he wants us to serve Him is to praise His son and to just keep growing in our relationship with Him.

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[01:32:21] Ashley James: Thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing your experiences, Emily. Is there anything left unsaid or is there anything you really want to make sure that you shared in this interview today?

[01:32:33] Emily Becker: Oh, honestly, Ashley, I shared way more than I thought. I felt so called to be on this. I don't know. Try praying. And I love hearing from the Learn True Health community. They're just incredible whether they're asking for prayers or they're just, like asking, for an inch cream. I love hearing from them. And they're not all – the ones that reach out to me aren't all Christians. I get all kinds of emails from people. It's just really fun. I love it. I love hearing from everyone. And if you want to say something and you want to start a conversation, let's start a conversation. That's how we're going to grow. We need to be ourselves and to relax a little bit in these awkward conversations.

[01:33:46] Ashley James: I like that, relax a little bit in these awkward conversations. Just today on in the Learn True Health Facebook Group, I was having a good discussion with one of the listeners about an episode. She felt as though lately the podcast is more biased around diet in terms of being whole food plant based. And I pointed out to her that I had just a few episodes ago done an episode about a diet that is pretty much 100 percent meat based. But because I had then a few episodes later had an interview with Chef AJ, who's vegan, that then it might upset people who aren't vegan. Or vegans might get upset when I have someone on that promotes a meat diet. Right? And my –

[01:34:30] Emily Becker: [Inaudible] [01:34:30] show is that you have everybody. That's what I love about your show is I can – whether or not I agree with – you had someone on for mushrooms. They mentioned whether it is – gosh – [inaudible] [01:34:50] but something else. Essentially an herbal drug. And even though I disagree with the use of that –

[01:35:04] Ashley James: Are you talking about microdosing psilocybin?

[01:35:07] Emily Becker: I think so.

[01:35:08] Ashley James: Yes. Microdosing psilocybin, it's not for getting people high. It's microdosing. And it's a really interesting interview. And I am not – again, I totally agree with you, I'm not promoting taking street drugs to hallucinate or anything. But I did. I did an interview on some kind of shaman ritual in Peru, Ayahuasca. I was having a brain fart. I did a whole interview on Ayahuasca. And it's like I'm not saying everyone should go do this or everyone should go – I'm not saying everyone should do one diet or another diet. If we just open our minds and take in information from different people and different points of view, listen for the gold. Because you can learn from someone who eats a different diet than you? It doesn't mean that you should go eat that diet. And we can learn from people of different spiritual faiths to help us strengthen our faith. Because maybe you hear something and you're like, “Wow. This makes me want to go investigate something more.” It's not about converting anyone. I loved that you said, like, saving souls.

Although I love hearing like – I do love getting emails from listeners. And I've gotten several of them having them say, “I've never gone to a Naturopath. And now I'm seeing one.” Or two listeners have written me and said, “I was in med school. I'm just going to become an MD. And now I'm going to become a Naturopathic physician because of your show.” So those are the kind of like – I like to save people from allopathic medicine when they could be using holistic medicine. I love hearing that kind of conversion. I really want to empower listeners to find their health and build their own health by gaining the goal that they can gain from every single guest. Because the guests don't have to have the same point of view as you. But that doesn't mean – let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just because when guests might believe in eating meat or not eating meat and you don't agree with them. It doesn't mean that that everything they say is not valid, right? And so we have this tendency right now in our social media day and age to do these mass generalizations. Where if someone voted for someone that we don't like, all of a sudden it's a master analyzation. We don't like any of their decisions. How could they be trusted because they believe in this one thing. And that's how we're manipulated, unfortunately. So we need to put our bias aside and say, “You know what? It's okay for other people have different opinions. And I can learn from everyone. Everyone matters. And I can learn from everyone because I'm listening for the gold. I'm listening for my own lessons. And I think that especially when we pray and ask for help that that helped might come in the form of hearing some little gold nuggets of wisdom from other people of other faiths or other diets or other health practices. And it doesn't mean we have to adopt what they do. But we can learn from everyone. I know my listeners do that. They're listening to people – a variety of people so we can all learn and grow.

So thank you for coming on the show. And this might be controversial to talk about prayer and God and Christianity and just faith and the power of prayer. And the idea that we can set our intentions by focusing on gratitude. That we can volunteer our time to improve our happiness. That we can free ourselves from anxiety by focusing on what we want instead of we don't want. These topics are incredibly beneficial. And for some people it might be controversial and that's okay. It's okay to be controversial. But our intention is to help people. Not to hurt them. So let's just keep helping people. And keep having an open mind. And so thank you everyone for listening. And thank you, Emily, for coming and sharing your story. I really, really hope and pray that today's episode has helped people, has helped the listeners to give them some new tools. And maybe just opened up their mind to start thinking about their healing practices and maybe incorporating gratitude and prayer in them. That'd be great to see what happens in their life if they do.

[01:40:01] Emily Becker: Thank you so much for having me here. I am also going to give you and your listeners a 10 percent off if they ever shop at my store online, emilysremedies.com.

[01:40:13] Ashley James: Okay. Awesome. Well, the links to everything that you do are going to be in the show notes of today's podcasts at learntruehealth.com, emilysremedies.com.

Thank you, Emily for coming on the show. This has been wonderful.

[01:40:26] Emily Becker: Awesome. Thank you, Ashley.

[01:40:28] Ashley James: Yeah. And you know, I know you were nervous and you did a stellar job. So good job.

[01:40:34] Emily Becker: Awesome. Thank you.

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Ashley James is a Holistic Health Coach, Podcaster, Rapid Anxiety Cessation Expert, and avid Whole Food Plant-Based Home Chef. Since 2005 Ashley has worked with clients to transform their lives as a Master Practitioner and Trainer of Neuro-linguistic Programming.

Her health struggles led her to study under the world’s top holistic doctors, where she reversed her type 2 diabetes, PCOS, infertility, chronic infections, and debilitating adrenal fatigue.

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