349: I Used To Have Cancer (Part II)

James Templeton And Ashley James

Cancer survivor (33+ years and counting!) James Templeton tells the story of how he beat the dreaded disease with macrobiotic diet and vitamin C. Part 2 of an inspiring and instructive interview replete with true health gems.

[00:00:00] Ashley James: Welcome to the Learn True Health podcast. I'm your host, Ashley James. This is episode 349.

Hello, true health seeker, and welcome to another exciting episode of the Learn True Health podcast. This is Part 2 of my interview with James Templeton. Episode 348 was Part 1, and this is episode 349. So please, if you haven't listened to the first part, you definitely will want to go back and listen to episode 348. We ended that episode right on a high note, right at the climax of his story, and he has so much more information to share. So here's Part 2. I know you're going to enjoy it.

One of the things he does talk about is the importance of taking vitamin C and a lot of vitamin C. He's gone through and tried a bunch of different kinds, and we discussed some of them. After I did this interview with him, which actually was a few months ago because he wanted me to wait to publish it until his book came out. It's just being released right now, which is exciting. A link for his book is going to be in the show notes of today's podcast at learntruehealth.com, so you'll be able to go and check that out. Definitely support him and his cause by buying his book if you're called to do so.

I tried a few different kinds of vitamin C, and I've discovered that my favorite one—I tried -the Dr. Matthias Rath one, and I've tried a few others. My favorite one ultimately that rose above the rest was the one that Kristen Bowen sells on her website. It’s acerola cherry powder, and it's fair trade, very clean. What I like about acerola cherry powder is it tastes good. It has co-factors, and it's from a whole food source. So you're getting a whole food source instead of something that's been synthetically made in a lab, but it does taste good. I noticed my body seems to buzz with it instead of react negatively towards it, so I recommend trying that. As you're listening to the rest of this interview and hearing about the importance of vitamin C, if you think you want to try one, give Kristen Bowen's vitamin C a try. It’s the acerola cherry powder.

I'm going to have a link to it in the show notes, but you can go to livingthegoodlifenaturally.com. That's her website, livingthegoodlifenaturally.com, and in the shop section under the Supplements, you'll be able to find the acerola cherry powder.

Now she does give all the listeners a discount. The coupon code is LTH, as in Learn True Health, and while you're on her website, if you haven't already, try her magnesium soak. It is life-changing. Definitely go back and listen to a few of my episodes I've done with her. It's been phenomenal. We've had hundreds of listeners go through and try her magnesium soak and share with me the effects that it's had on them.

Those two things are phenomenal. Use the coupon code LTH on her website, livingthegoodlifenaturally.com and all these links are going to be in the show notes of today's podcast at learntruehealth.com.

Thank you so much for being a listener. I'm so thrilled that we're on this journey together. My goal when I set out to do this podcast was to publish at least a thousand interviews, so we are more than a third of the way there. How exciting is that? And we're just going to keep uncovering more and more amazing information like what James Templeton shares today.

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[00:04:13] James Templeton: I remember sneaking down the side of the hall on one side of the wall where nobody could see me. I snuck down some stairs. I literally was crawling. I was so weak from this. I'd threw up I can't tell you how many times, and it was awful. I snuck down those stairs, and I went out into my car, which had been sitting out there in the parking lot. I got in that car, and I drove out of that place. I never looked back, and I made up my mind at that point, I was not going to do any more of that medical stuff. I wasn't going to do it. I was going to go all out, and I was going to do the macrobiotic diet, lifestyle, vitamin C, and I was going to keep an open mind going forward.

So I left there, went to my stepmother's house, and stayed there for a week recovering. I stopped twice on the road, throwing up. I was so sick on the interstate highway. I remember that. I was just weak, and I was down to probably 120-130 pounds. I just had no energy. I never looked back, and I ended up going back to Dallas and dug in. I really dug in this time even more because I was weak and sick from the treatments, but I knew what to do now, and it didn't take me very long to start getting a lot of energy. When I got back to Dallas, I decided after a while, “This is a tough life.” I'm working all day long, cooking for myself. I'm eating leftovers for lunch, which I didn't mind doing. It was very lonely because I was by myself. The only people I talked to were the employees that worked for me. They were very, very supportive, but it was a tough go. I knew I needed to have support, and I needed to do something else.

That's when I decided to go to the macrobiotic center, which was the Kushi Institute up in western Massachusetts at the time and take a residential seminar. I spent a week up there, and I took off from Dallas and took off a week of work to go up there because I knew there was more things I need to learn, plus I needed a really good break. I was doing really well then. This has been a while after all this hospital stuff. I was getting a lot stronger. I still couldn't walk as well as I'd like to, and I couldn't run very well, but I was getting stronger and stronger, so I decided that if I couldn't walk very well still, I was going to get me a bicycle.

So I went down to a bicycle shop, and I got me a 10-speed bicycle. I would go out in the afternoons, and I'd fit it in every day. I'd ride as much as I could. I worked up to a hundred miles a week riding my bicycle because I was determined to do whatever it took because I had been a runner. I didn't want to lose my ability, my endurance which I had, and I wanted to stay strong, so I started doing that. And then, when I did go up to Massachusetts, I had a lot of strength. I was in pretty good health. I was doing pretty well.

But when I got up there that week, that was probably the best week of my life. I ent there, and this was the place to go if you want to learn about macrobiotics. Macrobiotics was an interesting lifestyle. It’s just a lonely one when you're by yourself, and you don't have the support. Going up there, there were all these people for this residential seminar that had a lot of different problems, from cancer to Epstein Barr virus, to maybe their mother or father had cancer or had passed away, and they were interested in it for their own sake.

So I met a lot of very interesting people and while I was there, the general manager of the place, I had a conversation with him, and he said that if I wanted to come up there sometime and live there and do work study, that was a possibility. I had been thinking about, what was next? What could I do next?

So he offered me a position to come up there and do work study, which would basically mean I'd have room and board. I’d wash dishes, cut firewood, whatever I was able to do. At that point, I look pretty strong. He also told me there was a famous writer, a macrobiotic writer, and a teacher that lived in Dallas that I should get to know. His name was Alex Jack, and Alex Jack was one of the top writers. He wrote a lot of books along with Michio Kushi, which was the macrobiotic guru at that time.

When I got back to Dallas, I met Alex Jack and his wife, and we became really close friends, and we shared meals at night together. It was wonderful to have that relationship with him and that support with them. It wasn't long before Alex decided to go up and live at the Kushi Institute, and he was going to take over the general managership. He suggested I might want to come up there with them.

I'd been thinking about it, going up there, after this general manager that was there offered it to me. So he went up there, then I followed a little bit after them and went up there. I just walked away from the business I was involved in. I hated to do that, but the people were very nice. They were very supportive, my friends. I owe them a lot for giving me that opportunity at that time. It was a wonderful experience, but I got to go to the Kushi Institute and work there. Eventually, I became the operations manager.

That meant that I would be in charge of getting the supplies to the facility, picking people up from the airport and the bus stations, making sure there was fuel for the heaters, just whatever needed to be done to keep the operations of the place going. I enjoyed that a lot.

I was there for several years, and I met a lot of just unbelievable people. I was lucky to be living at a place that was so renowned for the macrobiotic studies, and here I am in the thick of things. The only thing I hated about it was, when I moved in, it was a long ways from Texas and not getting to see my daughter. But I would take a trip to Texas when I could to see her. I just felt it was something I needed to do for myself. I did that, and it was wonderful.

While I was there, I met a fellow, and his name was Herb Shapiro. Herb Shapiro was a businessman from New Jersey and had a chain of health food stores. He was up there, dealing with some of his health issues, living there for a while. I met him, and he was a great friend to me also. To make a long story short, we became good friends, and he offered me a position to move to New Jersey and cook for him and also help him within his health food store so I could learn the business. I knew that it was time for me to do something else because I was doing better. My health was thriving. I’ve learned a lot about macrobiotics. I've learned a lot and met a lot of nice people.

So Herb was seeing a nutritionist and this nutritionist that he would see and was up in what they call the Berkshires up in western Massachusetts, which was actually where the Kushi Institute was in that area. She was living up there, and her name was Ann Louise Gittleman, and I think you're familiar with Ann Louise.

[00:13:45] Ashley James: When you said ‘the nutritionist,’ I’m like, “Oh, this is how you guys met. That's so cool.” Yeah, I've had Ann Louise on the show. I'm a big fan. I absolutely adore her. That's so exciting. I know the Berkshires. I've spent a few months at Kripalu, which is a residential yoga center there. I'd love to visit the other centers in the area. It's my kind of party—a holistic party.

[00:14:17] James Templeton: It’s great. I spend a lot of time going over there because they had these beautiful grounds around there, and I would hike in the mountains, the hills—I guess they’re hills, but I would hike around there and hang out. They had a little bookstore—you remember that? I would hang out in that bookstore. I met some nice people over there, and some of the people that lived at the Kushi Institute, they had lived there also. They were kind of free spirits, and they were interesting people. They had a lot of experience with a lot of different places like that.

I found it very interesting. I would say I would go there maybe like on a—I can't remember what night it was. It was a Tuesday or Wednesday night. They would have these things where the public could go in, and the yogi was Yogi Desai, and he would give these seminars for the public once a week. I would go over there sometimes. It was a very interesting place, and I used to look forward to going there sometimes.

But anyway, my friend was seeing Ann Louise Gittleman as a nutritionist, and he had offered that there was—he told me about a seminar that she was giving in the Berkshires, and it was on intestinal parasites. It was a weekend-long seminar that Ann Louise was teaching on intestinal parasites. He told me he thought it was very interesting and that I would enjoy it very much. And so I took him up on it, and I went with him to one of the seminars. We drove up from New Jersey to the Berkshires and went to see Ann Louise speak. Ann Louise was there, and I'd never met her before. I’ve never done anything about or other than what he did. Sad. And she was remarkable. She was a great teacher. She had a huge crowd of people. We were there, and she was teaching about the issues with intestinal parasites that people were harboring, and it was causing a lot of different health issues.

I found it very interesting. She even mentioned that a lot of people that had cancer, she felt, had parasites. After the seminar, my friend and I went up to see her, and he wanted to introduce me to her. She says, “I'm glad you got to come to see me and all this.” I said, “Ann Louise, you're remarkable, and I want to ask you a question if I may.” She said, “Sure, ask me.” And I said, “Do you think I might have parasites? You know, I'm a cancer survivor. I'm wondering if I have parasites.”

She kind of looks at me, and she just looked at me for a second. She says, “Yes, I think you have parasites.” And I said, “Really? How can you tell?” And she says to me, “Well, you just got that parasitic look.” I went, “Oh, my god. Here's this nice-looking woman here, and she seemed to be very smart, and now she thinks I'm parasitic-looking.” I'm like, “Oh, my gosh.” I think I felt like things were crawling on me instantly or something. But she could see that I was interested and wondering a lot about what she had said and thinking about it.

And she says, “If you want to, there's a doctor in New York City, and his name is Dr. Hermann Bueno.” Dr. Hermann Bueno is a world-renowned parasitologist, and he’s right downtown in Manhattan, in New York City. She said, “You should go see him and have him have him check you out because if anybody would know, it'll be him.” And I said, “Maybe I should go.”

She says, “I'll tell you what. I'll even go with you. If you want to go, I would drive along with you or ride along with you. I haven't met the man. I'd like to meet him. I'd be happy to do that.” So I said, “Well, I'll take you up on it.” Within a week or two, I got an appointment, and she went with me. We drove to New York and went in.

Dr. Bueno was there. He was a very nice man. He was from Colombia, and he had this Colombian accent. He was just very like, “Hello, my friend.” Just this really nice man, and he was an older man. I told him what I had been through, and he took a tissue swab sample to where they basically go up in your rectum, and they take a swab, a sample. He put it under the microscope. He had one of these teaching microscopes. He had two-sided lenses where I could see it, and he could see it at the same time.

So we sat there, and we looked at this. I didn't know what I was seeing. He says, “Oh, my lord. You have Entamoeba histolytica,” and I said, “Oh.” He said, “That's a one-celled organism. It's a parasite.”

And he says, “Oh, you have Giardia. Giardia is another parasite.” And then he says, “You're loaded, my friend. You also have something called Ascaris.” And I said, “What is that?” And he says, “You probably know of it as roundworm.” And I'm like, “Oh, my gosh.” All of a sudden, I'm thinking, “Oh, I have all this stuff.” He said I had a lot of it. I thought, “More stuff to do here, but I was going to listen.” He said to me, “I'll tell you something, I’ve never seen a case of cancer or AIDS that didn't have some parasitic involvement. I think that it's a good thing that you came here today.”

I started to think instantly about all my friends that had cancer that I had met at the Kushi Institute and thought about all the people that had suffered from the same kind of things that I had gone through. And I thought to myself maybe they have parasites, too. I got to get rid of this stuff, and then maybe somehow know that I can help them. That's the kind of thing that went through my mind.

And so he gave me some herbs to take and told me to go on back and come back and see him in about three months. So I went back to the Berkshires, and at that time, I had moved up there, and we were living up there. I went there, and I was taking these parasite herbs and doing all this cleansing, and I'm telling you, it was unbelievable, the stuff I started to see. I was detoxing like crazy. When you start to see stuff, you start to believe, and when you believe, it makes a big difference in sticking with something.

But I didn't feel good taking these herbs. I felt like somebody had a ball peen hammer and was hitting me about every two seconds. I had a terrible headache with taking these herbs, and I told Ann Louise, and Ann Louise told me that I might want to consider taking something that she had formulated for a company a year or two back, and it seemed to work pretty well for people and didn't have these side effects.

So I took her up on it. I started to take those herbs, and that seemed to do the trick, and it was a lot better. After another three months, I went back to see him, and everything was clear. He said, “Everything is clear.” So I know that I did the right thing and I felt a lot better. I actually started to gain weight again.

So I knew that whatever I was doing was making a huge, huge difference. After that, I got very interested in the parasite thing, and I got thinking about what I was going to do next with my life. I met Ann Louise, and we got to spend time. I was actually cooking for my friend. He had rented a house in the Berkshires, and he was there. He was seeing Ann Louise—it was Herb—the same fellow, and he said that to me that she was thinking of moving in the house and that she would be living across the hall from me because she was leaving the apartment that she was living in and needed a place to live, and they were doing some trade. So she would be living in this house that we live. It was a big house. I don't know how many bedrooms it had. It was a big house that he had rented, and we all shared this house, and I did all the cooking.

So Ann Louise was there, I got to know her and got to spend time with her, and I was doing so much better after the parasite thing. I found her so interesting that little by little, we became very close and eventually became a couple. It's funny how that happened, living across the hall from each other, sharing meals, and spending time, talking about interesting things.

After we got together, I came up with this idea of starting my own company. I knew I needed to do something. I'd been in the convenience store business, and I wanted to do something else myself. I started thinking about it, and I woke up during the night with an idea about starting a company, and the company would be called Uni Key health. Uni Key would be a company that stood for a universal key to health, and that would get to the root of health problems such as parasites, other toxic substances that needed to come out, and then we would detoxify, and we would rebuild and maintain health after that.

So I got very excited about that. And my first thing would be that I would get into the parasite cleansing herbal side of things. I decided though that I would do that in New Mexico because I love New Mexico. As a younger person, I had spent time in New Mexico around Taos and Santa Fe, and I love that area. So I decided that maybe I should move back out there, and then I asked Ann Louise if she would go with me, and she decided she would.

We went to New Mexico. There was a teacher of Ann Louise's there, and her name was Dr. Hazel Parcells, and Hazel Parcells was a very well-known doctor in certain circles, especially in the alternative health field at that time. She was over100 years old, and it was Ann Louise's original teacher that got her interested in nutrition in the first place. She was telling me I would love her, and I needed to meet her. I guess I thought she'd be in a wheelchair or barely get around, but boy, was I wrong because when I got there, and I met Dr. Parcells—That was the first thing we did. We went to see her–She came in to greet us, and she was unbelievable. She was walking around. She was over a hundred. She was a maybe 102 or 103 then, and I couldn't believe it. She was so vital and had so much energy.

[00:27:17] Ashley James: Wow. When you first saw her, if you didn't know her age, what age would you thought she was?

[00:27:24] James Templeton: She probably looked like she was maybe 80—someone like that, maybe an 80-year-old lady. She was just so jolly and so full of energy, so bright and so smart. She had her own story. She had been written off at the age of 40 or 42—I think it was 40 when she got sick, somewhere around there. She had tuberculosis. She had owned a beauty shop, and she had gotten sick, I guess from all the toxic chemicals, and eventually had tuberculosis. Her5 old system was run down, and they told her she only had two to three weeks to live. They told her that she should go to a sanitarium.

She didn't do it. She got up, and she started eating vegetables. That's what her body felt like eating. She ate all the vegetables she could, especially spinach, because she couldn't get a lot of the things back then. So she ate all the spinach, and within a month, this kidney that had been three quarters gone, one of her kidneys was three quarters gone, had almost completely regenerated within a year. But within a month, she had all this energy, and everything was starting to be better. And when she went back a year later, that doctor could hardly tell anything ever had been wrong with her. It was amazing.

So she got interested in health and started to study and became a naturopathic doctor, a chiropractor, and a Ph.D. in nutrition. She was a nutritionist at a university for many years until she was in her 70s, and this was her second career. So she almost died.

So then I met her. At that time, I was getting ready to start my company Uni Key Health, and I wanted to learn everything I could from her. Anything that she could teach me, I was going to try to learn. So I got to spend a little time in her lab working with her, learning how to develop products, and learning the way that you formulate.

She was a miracle. She was unbelievable. Of all the people I've ever worked with, Michio Kushi was a real master, but she was something else too. I've never met anyone like that. She had all the answers pretty much to health. So anyway, I got to know her, and one day we were having lunch, and she says, “Come on in here, honey, and let's have some lunch.” She always cooked in a crockpot, and she would have all these vegetables and things in the crockpot. That day she had beans and ham hocks. I'd been on this macrobiotic diet. I would never get off the macrobiotic diet. There's no way back then. There's no way I was going to stop that.

She told me, she says, “Look, I'll tell you something now. You got to start eating meat again, honey. If you don't, you’re going to get sick. I can tell you I've worked with many people over the years. You don't look healthy. Your color is not good. You got to start eating more protein to feed your glands. Your glands are getting weak. I'm telling you, you need to consider this.”

I looked at her, and she is so vibrant and so much the picture of health that I said—at that point, she’s probably a 104-year-old woman—who's going to argue with her? So I took some of it, and that's when I started eating meat again.

I wouldn't eat meat for quite a few years. She got my attention. Without her, who knows what would have happened. But she was into the parasites big time. She was into detoxifying the body, taking a load off, rebuilding the glands. It helped a tremendous amount of people.

She taught me so much, just from her. Ann Louise taught me a lot, and then I started the company, Uni Key. I started to develop my products. I've been in this business, Uni Key, for 28 years. It's thrived over the years, and it's been a wonderful business. The main thing that we started was the parasite cleansing. We've done so much over the years, but the whole thing is that I've done very well over the years, and I still keep myself on the path of health. I'm proud to say that I keep learning all the time. There are always new things. Not only was it the macrobiotic diet, it was vitamin C, the parasite cleansing.

I also learned about another thing that I did through another one of my friends and teachers that I looked up to. It was called Iscador, which is a mistletoe, which stimulated my immune system. I did that for a year where you inject yourself with mistletoe from Europe.

So I've always been open to what's next until I kind of figure out all the pieces of the puzzle. Today, I do a lot more things. Over the years I've done so much more than that, but just eating this macrobiotic diet, which was so detoxifying and so healthy—it had all these vegetables—your cruciferous vegetables, your cancer-killing vegetables with the phytonutrients. And I stopped eating sugar, which feeds cancer.

That's the big thing. You got to get off sugar and starve the sugar out of your system, and the vitamin C will do the rest. It does a lot—the vitamin C. So I've, I've done a whole lot more now than I've ever done and things I've done now, but we can get into that if we have time.

[00:34:37] Ashley James: Absolutely. As long as you have time, I'd love to get into that. I'm just so inspired by your journey. Thank you for laying it all out and haring what it took to get here. They should make a movie out of your life. I love how there's divine intervention.

I know some people don't believe in the wisdom of the universe or a creator, but when you sit back and examine your life, you see that there are these miracles that occur, that it's not chaos in random. But even if it's just our intentions, even if we can just believe that when you set out to pray that day in the hospital right after your surgery, you said out an intention to seek information. You were asking for the universe or asking for people to help that you're also opening yourself up. That hope, that perspective was allowing when information came to you, you were receptive enough to receive it. That’s the part of the brain called the reticular activating system.

We can look at neuroscience and get that on a scientific level for those who don't believe in God, or a creator, or divine intervention by setting an intention and something like prayer. With an intention, you are telling your brain to be a heat-seeking missile for what you're looking for.

I believe that there's this wonderful part of our unconscious mind that we can tap into and ask to help us to seek information by using things like prayer to align our conscious and unconscious mind to be open enough to receive the information. But then you look and see that there's so much divine intervention that occurred in your life. It wasn't like a pinball machine where it's just random bouncing here and there you were. People were put directly in your path, literally in your hospital room to bring you the information that you needed, but you were also ready to receive it.

Those who are listening today are hearing this information, not by accident. They hear it because they're ready to receive the information. They're ready to learn. They're receptive because they've chosen to open their mind.

I love the saying, “Open your mind so much; your brain will follow.” Just open your mind to the possibilities, especially that the body has this innate ability and innate wisdom to heal itself, and we need to stop putting obstacles in our body's way towards health. Sometimes healing is getting out of our way. Stop putting toxins in, help get the parasites out, give the body the nutrition it needs, the diet it needs. And that means sometimes adjusting the diet as you go along, depending on where you are at different stages in your health, and then just let the body do its work.

So you are this shining example of the fact that we can heal and that there are resources out there that, there's so much wisdom in holistic medicine and looking to the wisdom of the body's ability to heal versus wait to get sick and then get a new drug. I love your story. Thank you so much for laying it all out.

Of course, we're all curious now to hear about your new book that's coming out; learn a bit more about the macrobiotic diet; of course, learn about your protocols for detoxing parasites. We'd love to hear it all.

[00:38:25] James Templeton: There's a lot to it. The thing that I think that helps anybody the most, myself included, is to believe in what you're doing. When you're doing something, you start to see results, and you will see positive results. Once you start to get all the toxins out and you start to get the immune system back in order to where it should be, and you start to take nutrients and things that you're deficient in, and you start to exercise on a regular basis—I'm not talking about going out there and running marathons.

We could talk for three or four hours about this story, but you can't say every little thing or tell every little detail. But the exercise, just walking every day and doing deep breathing as you sometimes walk, get plenty of oxygen and keep the lymphatic system moving and get your system where it detoxifies on a regular basis and eliminating the way it's supposed to. We all have 75 million cancer cells, they say. A lot of times, people will say that we all are walking around—the average was 75 million cancer cells in our body. People think, “Really?”

But it's true. We all have cancer cells. We all have cancer, but it hasn't gathered into a tumor, I guess you could say. After about a billion cells or more, it becomes up to a thousand-milligram tumor for every billion cells. The thing is that if you don't take care of yourself as you get older, and some of us younger like I was—I was exposed to a lot of things. When I look back at the things I was exposed to, I’d lived several places next to one of these high power lines. These big, double, huge strand, major power lines. Sometimes one place was right out my back door. The other place I lived for almost ten years around one—well, it wasn’t ten years. It was probably maybe seven or eight years around one that was no further than 50 yards away. You're getting this energy all the time.

And then I was in the gasoline business, and when I was in college, I pumped gasoline. You're around all these petrol chemicals. You're breathing all this stuff. Before that, I worked construction—this was before I got sick—at one point for seven years on and off, and I was exposed to PVC glues every day. You're breathing all this stuff in, and when you're young, you think you're invincible. And so I'm breathing this stuff, and I'm not taking care of myself—I'm probably drinking too much, eating fast food, or whatever we had back then. The last thing I was going to do is focus on my diet.

Here I am exercising myself and running up to 60 miles a week. When I was running all this time, I wasn't supporting myself properly, so no wonder I ended up with cancer. It's not just, “I got too much sun out there.”It's because maybe I had a weakness from too much sun here or there or chemicals, but like the melanoma, a lot of people say it's from chemical exposure, toxicity, and lack of immunity.

When I started to feel sick all the time like I'm getting the colds, flus, and allergies like I'd never had in my life–Why is that? I had polyps in my sinuses. I had everything. My whole system was breaking down as a young man. No one ever thinks anything about it, but it's not normal. You shouldn't ever get sick very often. You shouldn't get sick, but occasional. I mean, everybody's going to get sick sometime, but I can honestly say after I discovered all this stuff and after I started changing my ways, I probably hadn't been really sick with anything. Maybe three or four times in 30 years and that was like maybe a head cold and maybe flu one time.

That's unusually the usual because most people get the flu a time or two every year, and it's because they're just not taking care of themselves. They're not thinking about it. They're probably not until something bad happens to them, and they start to feel really lousy. But with all this cancer in everybody, you would think it would get their attention, but most people don't even know this. It's just out of control, no wonder, so much of this stuff.

One thing I found out through all this through the vitamin C, which I took 20,000 milligrams of vitamin C from the beginning, and to this day, I probably take 16,000 a day still, I never had any side effects, never had any problems. Maybe if I take too much, you'll get a little bit of loose bowels because that's what happens with vitamin C. I never did IV vitamin C which you can get nowadays, which is a lot more powerful. But I did all this vitamin C, and to this day, I still do a lot of vitamin C. You’ll probably have a hard time getting me not to take it because it's helped me.

But cancer—Linus Pauling did a lot of research, and he did some studies later on in his life not long before he died. He did a cancer study, and it was vitamin C and cancer again, but he added another matrix to it. He added lipase and proline, which are amino acids, and he added a green tea extract. He used that in this combination, and he treated people of all these different kinds of cancers. At that time, I didn't know why the vitamin C works so well other than I was afraid to stop it because, in his first book that I read, he says people did well on it as long as they were on it. There was no way you’re going to get me to stop. But this study showed that cancer is a collagen disease, and it spreads through the collagen, which is the connective tissue. It metastasizes, and when it spreads through the collagen, it starts causing damage and inflammation in different areas of the body, in organs and tissues.

The thing about vitamin C is it helps to stop it from spreading. That's why when someone is first diagnosed with cancer, they got to get on something fast. You can't mess around with it. Cancer is not something you can fool around with and think, “I'll see if this works. If this doesn't work, I'll do something in two or three months,” or because it can double in 90 days. The average, I believe they say, cancer cells can double in 90 days. If you have a tumor going on, it can double in size in three months, and some fast, aggressive types can grow faster.

All that causes inflammation, and then you start to have a big problem when it gets in an area. Vitamin C is, is remarkable. The other thing about vitamin C is that vitamin C, along with iron and copper in the cell, create hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide is an oxidant that destroys cancer cells. We naturally have catalase in our body. Catalase is an antioxidant normally found in the body, which in cancer cells have it, too. It's very little compared to the human so they can handle a lot of hydrogen peroxide. We can’t handle it, and our body deals with it through the catalase antioxidant process.

So that's the big deal with that. Also, when cancer gets in contact with vitamin C, I think it is probably from the hydrogen peroxide, but in general, it commits suicide, which is called apoptosis. There's no way in the world, and anybody that has cancer shouldn't be taking high amounts of vitamin C. I can tell you that because if you do that, your chances of survival went way up in my book.

[00:48:22] Ashley James: I have questions about the vitamin C. There's so much controversy around the quality of vitamin C, whether it's synthetic or naturally derived, whether made from GMO corn or rose hips. I'd love to know what your thoughts are because what I understand from Linus Pauling Institute, what I've read on their website is, vitamin C is vitamin C. It doesn't matter where it's sourced for one. It's a little bit of a sticky wicket. And then two, how do you take that much? Do you work your way up to being tolerant, or do you need to take high-quality vitamin C to absorb that much?

[00:49:06] James Templeton: Well, here's what you do: you take the vitamin C—and I'm not sure that the vitamin C matters or not. I've heard that, too. I would think that you don't want to take GMO because why add more glyphosate? It’s in the GMO foods, the corn. A lot of vitamin C is made from corn. Why add more toxicity, more cancer-causing things to your body? You want to take away as much as you can of the cancer-causing toxicity in your body, and you also want to take on as much food as you can that are cancer-fighting foods like the cruciferous vegetables. You can look a list up that is anticancer, and you want to stay away from a lot of fruit.

A lot of people eat way too much fruit. Vitamin C is in fruit, but you have to eat an awful lot of fruit to get the kind of vitamin C. You want to stay away from that to get the vitamin C because I know a lot of people that live on fruit, and they wonder what happened to these people. They fed the cancer—all this glucose, the sugar that they produced.

The vitamin C—you want to make sure that it is buffered. If you can find one that's buffered, meaning that it's easy on the stomach—I like it if it's buffered with magnesium, maybe lysine and magnesium. There are certain powdered vitamin C's out that is well absorbed. There's one I know of that is 80% absorbed. It's almost like an IV form. It's so efficient with the absorption. That one is very gentle also. I could give you that. I don't sell it or anything. American Nutritionals is a company that has Vitality C—I believe is the name of it. That is an excellent one to get started on. They have an excellent product. Then there's Dr. Rath, the doctor that worked with Linus Pauling. He's a doctor that they've pretty much about run out of the country because he's helping people is what I feel.

[00:51:42] Ashley James: I love Dr. Roth's work. I got into his work in 2005 back when the Internet was still so young compared to what it is now. You could download all of his books for free. He gave away all of his books for free on his website, and I think he still may do that. But I read all of his books that were available at that time, one of them being “Why Animals Don't Get Heart Attacks and People Do.” That completely blew my mind open to the ideas about nutrition. It was one of the mind-opening experiences that kept me going on this path of seeking holistic health.

What vitamin C do you take?

[00:52:29] James Templeton: Well, the vitamin C that I take is the Dr. Rath formula, and he's got two different ones. If you call up Dr. Rath or drrath.com, they'll tell you they've got people that you can talk to there. They might even have a medical doctor you can talk to and get advice from on the type of vitamin C and how much they recommend. But I use the Dr. Rath vitamin C and A. I also use the Vitality C, the one I'm talking about to mix it up. If I had cancer again, and I had to deal with this, I would probably find someone that could do an IV drip and probably get 50,000 milligrams up to 100,000 milligrams of vitamin C. You can hit much in a week sometimes.

So it depends. You might start with 25 and work up to 50, and into a hundred. But if you go to someone that does this is very knowledgeable, which they should be and get the drip form, it'll saturate your body faster. That's the key thing. You want to take vitamin C as quickly as possible so that the cancer has less ability to spread. You want that, and you want to get on a lot of other things also.

But that's what I take. I take the Rath, and I take the Vitality C. I'm sure there's a lot of great products out there, but these are the ones that I found. I think L ascorbate is the one that a lot of people recommend for absorption. It's a little higher priced, but they say that that absorbs better. 

But again, I don't know. For years I probably took things with glyphosates and everything else. I don't know—you get what you get, and you take what you take, but I've always taken something that was buffered with magnesium or lysine. I've enjoyed that one a lot, and the one I've taken. Now I'm using Dr. Rath and the Vitality C. I don't have problems. You don't have any problems going into the bathroom. I'll tell you.

And the other thing, I've gone to get my arteries checked out several times. This is a quick story. It has nothing to do with cancer, but it has to do with my heart, which I come from genetically a background of heart disease. A few years ago, I went and got checked out and had a calcium score scan done when I was in New York. I went to this place, and they did back then. There's probably more of it now out there, but it was a scan where they could see in your arteries to see the calcium buildup in your arteries. I decided that I needed to have my heart checked out. I went and had this test done. It was almost like you're doing a CAT scan. They run you through this tube and back through it. And then the guy says, “Go have a seat, and we'll give you the results here in a few minutes.” The guy comes over and says, “Can I talk to you?” And I said, “Sure, you can talk to me.” I'm scratching my head here. I thought I was going to tell me, “Oh, man, you're a clogged up, and we better get you straight to the hospital or something.”

The guy says to me, “I haven't seen this kind of thing very much at all. I don't know if I've ever seen it like this.” And I said, “What are you talking about?” It scared me. I think I was 52 or 54 then—I can't remember, but he says, “Your arteries look like a baby's arteries.” I said, “Is that good or bad?” He goes, “That's good. They're clean.” He said, “At your age, usually people have some plaque buildup, but you don't have any. That's unusual. What are you doing?”

And I said, “It must be from all the vitamin C and all the antioxidants that I take.” And he says, “Well, I don't know, but you better keep doing it. This is like a little kid's arteries.”

So I know that it works, and the year before last, I went and did the same thing—the same thing. I know it has to be that vitamin C. I take a lot of vitamin C for many, many, many years along with a lot of supplements. People look at me and think I'm nuts. You probably haven't seen anybody take as many things as I do and people will say, “That can't be good. Your liver got to detoxify all that.” But I can tell you one thing, and it’s probably overkill, but I have more energy, as much energy as most people in their 30s. As I said, I don't get sick very much or anything. I can't remember when I got sick last time. I feel good. I only mainly do it cause I'm in the business and I want to see how well things work, and I've just become the guinea pig—I guess my guinea pig over the years.

But the vitamin C is, I think, is starting to get its due. It's just so important for people whether they have cancer or not to take vitamin C. I would probably take at least five or six grams a day of vitamin C at least. It wouldn't hurt if I spread it out through the day for absorption. I take more than that, but I think that people will get the benefits, and they're going to see that it's going to make a big difference along with a lot of other things which we can talk about if you want to.

[00:59:23] Ashley James: Absolutely. I thought it was really interesting. These are numbers I heard back in 2005 when I was really diving into Linus Pauling's work and Matthias Rath’s work. Most animals produce their own. A goat will regularly have something like 16 grams of vitamin C coursing through their veins where a wolf will have something like 32 grams. So if you think about it, you're probably what—two and a half wolves? How many goats do you think you are? That amount of vitamin C, if that's what a goat produces to stay healthy—you don't hear of flu epidemics in animals. You don't hear like, “Take your cat to get the flu shot,” or something like that.

But these animals produce their own vitamin C, and they have grams all the time. Their body is circulating grams of vitamin C. We're not getting enough vitamins from our food. First of all, we're not eating enough fresh fruits and vegetables to sustain ourselves optimally. That's why over 70% of the adult population is on at least one prescription medication because they are experiencing symptoms of nutrient deficiency and toxicity, so they go and get a drug to manage symptoms instead of looking to the root cause, which is we're not giving the cells enough nutrition.

The farming practices in the last hundred years have robbed the soil of so many nutrients that the plants aren't able to even make enough vitamins and definitely aren't absorbing enough minerals for us. I absolutely believe in responsible supplementation. Sometimes when I take my supplements, I feel like I'm having a snack. I have a huge thing of water, and I've got a big handful of all my supplements. By the time I’m done taking them, I'm full. So I know exactly what you mean.


[01:01:22] James Templeton: I don't know. It takes me about four big glasses of water to get all my supplements down.

[01:01:27] Ashley James: When you say megadosing vitamin C, for example, we got to do it responsibly. We have to look at the co-factors that the body needs. What I've learned is that if someone were to only high dose vitamin C, it would throw copper out of balance in the body. I like that you’d mentioned that copper was a co-factor that was needed. How do you address that? You megadose certain nutrients. How do you make sure that the co-factors are always in balance?

[01:01:58] James Templeton: One of the things is—I mean, I take a lot of things. Everyone should take a multiple no matter what—a really good multiple, not just some little cheap multiple. They should take multiple vitamins, no matter what. That's just the key thing so that they don't get deficient.

They need to do a hair analysis or a blood test regularly. A hair analysis will tell you if there's a low mineral ratio going on in your body to other minerals. I take so much vitamin C, I've dropped it down a little bit, but I haven't had any deficiencies or anything like that because we probably do a blood test at least twice a year. Just the basic blood test will tell you that. If you're going to get a blood test, if you have to see a doctor, I think you can get a blood test through Request A Test, I believe it's called. You don't have to see a doctor to get that, but you need to understand how to read it. You can find out how to do that online.

That's just if you don't have a doctor that will let you do preventative blood testing on a regular basis. But you can go to a Quest Lab. I believe it’s called Request A Test, but Ann Louise talks about it all the time, and I'm not sure exactly the email for it, but if anybody has a question, they can email Ann Louise on her website, look up annlouise.com and ask that question, or go on the Facebook. She could answer that because I know that that's her specialty, one of her specialties.

[01:04:15] Ashley James: Sure. We'll make sure we have the links to everything you do, and we'll make sure that the links to Ann Louise's website and social media also, like you said the Facebook, just so people can contact you and check out your book and all of your websites and also check out her resources as well. I know you guys are a wonderful team so we'll make sure all those links are in the show notes of today's podcast at learntruehealth.com.

This is quite fascinating. I feel like you've opened a can of worms, but it's wonderful. It's so wonderful, especially for those who have a cancer diagnosis or have had a family member have a cancer diagnosis, or they are worried it's going to come back. To give someone hope—the idea that people on a regular basis, by nutrifying the body, are able to prevent cancer, reverse cancer, go into remission, live long and healthy lives without cancer. That gives so much hope and gives us a direction to look in, the direction of what is working.

But there are so many things—I have a friend who's, I'm battling cancer, and she has spent probably $100,000 towards natural medicine, and her fight is not over. She's winning, but her fight is not over. It's hard because one person will say do this. The other person says to do that. You just don't know. What should you do? What shouldn't you do? What direction should you go? What kind of advice do you have for someone when there is all this information out there? We could spend a fortune on going in these different directions, but how do we know what the right direction is for us?

[01:06:07] James Templeton: Thing about it is if you have a diagnosis of cancer, you know, there are two ways you can go. One is conventional, and most people will find out through conventional methods that they have cancer just like I did. Sometimes people select to go the conventional route. It's up to them. It's something they have to pray about or meditate on, or whatever they feel inside that they need to do. Some people feel comfortable with going the medical route. But for me to sit here and say, “Don't do that,” or “Do this or that,” I can't say that what they did for me—the surgery and the chemo that I did do—that it didn't help. I don't know that.

But what I do know is they didn't give me much hope or give me much to look forward to. My body wasn't responding, and I was getting sicker and sicker. I've decided that instead of being there, doing their thing, I was going to get up and do something. So I did.

But if I were someone, the first thing I would do is I would read as much as I could, and I would get my book, I Used to Have Cancer because I'm going to tell you what I did and what I would do if I had to do it over again. There's a lot of things you need to know, and it's really easy to read, but it'll give you the information. It'll also give you some other books to read and other things that would be very helpful.

But if you look at the newer research, there's a lot of things out there that help slows down or kill cancer. A lot of it is natural, herbal. There's a lot of things they could do, and I feel that their chances are very, very high of getting well when you take control of yourself and when you really get down and knock heads with it.

We use a natural method. But again, it's just up to the person. I've had really good friends lately pass away from cancer. It just made me sick, but it was their choice. They went the conventional route, and they didn't do very well. I wanted them to do other things, but it's just everybody has a different way of looking at things. I understand it, but that's why I started my foundation because I got sick and tired of seeing people die left and right. I wanted to give back. I felt like all these years, I've learned a lot, and I've made a good living, and now it's time to give back.

With this nonprofit thing and not do it for any other reason other than to give people hope, and my intention as we've already started this is to interview on video as many people as I can who have survived serious, advanced stage, Stage 4 cancer. That's through my foundation, Templeton Wellness Foundation. They're going to see people just like them that have survived for ten years or more, that have had cancer. Basically, these people were given up on.want people to know that cancer is not a death sentence. Cancer doesn't have to be and you shouldn't even think like that anymore. There are so many things you can do—vitamin C, enzyme therapy. Enzymes are huge. That's the next thing that I want to get into. Enzymes are a big deal, your immunity and your gut flora, which is 70-80% of your immune system. You've got to detoxify. You've got to build your system up with cancer-fighting nutrients, and you got to get the immune system up at the same time.

When you do that, you're going to start to believe, and the emotional side is going to kick in. You're going to start to believe you're going to feel better. You're going to start to trust in the survival word and believe in it. Because if you start to feel negative, that's going to take your immune system down and you want to surround yourself with like-minded people.

Don't be around day negative thinking people that are going to keep you negative because that's going to take you down more. Cancer, to me, is just about all about the body being out of balance. The more advanced it is, the more out of balance it is, the longer it's been out of balance, if you want to get well, then you've got to make changes. You've got to be willing to roll your sleeves up, get to work, go to battle, go to war—whatever you want to think.

To me, I feel that anybody can survive. I understand sometimes people wait too long or they've been through the mill. They've been through all the treatments, and their immune system has nothing left in it, and it's tough sometimes. It doesn't work for everyone, but you've got to do it. Once you believe and start to see, and you have to have the attitude like I’ve had, “If it doesn't work for me, it's not going to work for anyone else.”

Now if I'm going to do something, I'm going all out 150%, and it's not an easy route. But like this psychotherapist told me in the hospital, and I always can go back to that and think about it, he says, “There's a right way to do it and a wrong way. If you do it the right way, I believe you could get well. If you don't then, then it's not going to be as easy. You have to do it and do it the right way.”

There's so much out there now that you can do. I believe that with every cell in my body, that everyone listening to this, everyone's friends that's listening to this, everyone's family—everyone out there can benefit and get well because if I can do it, they can do it and stay well. Because when you're getting not much hope, five years seems like a long time, and there's five years survival rate, and as you said earlier, six years, it still counts. That's usually lower stages of cancer, but that's okay.

You also have to think about the quality of life you're going to have. Maybe you'll survive 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, depends on your age. But I just feel very strongly that with the right supplements, the right nutrition—get off of sugar, you've got to stay off of sugar. Sugar is your enemy. Sugar is terrible. You got to stay off of anything that's processed. You got to eat less meat.

If you have cancer, in most cases, some cancers you can eat a little more protein, but at the beginning, you have to be pretty strict, and you can widen out a little bit. I eat meat some; I don't eat meat every night. You got to be careful with fish nowadays because of all the toxicity and all the heavy metals and all the PCBs and all the parasites. You definitely don't want to eat sushi because if people eat that, that’s the end thing. They started to eat sushi. Meanwhile, they're getting parasites. Parasites are one of the most immunosuppressive things, according to Dr. Bueno and Dr. Parcells, known to man.

You have animals, and they get parasites, the first thing the vet looks far is parasites. If you have parasites there, that's the thing that they're concerned about more, and our doctors don't even look at it. They don't even think about it. That's a problem right there.

But you want to have vitamin C enzymes. You got to stimulate and keep your immune system strong by supplementing for something that helps support the thymus and the spleen. In some cases, red bone marrow is very good, but you want to make sure it's GMO-free, organic, and grown without hormones. You don't want to keep adding more toxins. You got to get smart, read labels, and ask questions. You’ve got to really study this, and you'll see that the knowledge and the truth will set you free from all this fear. You too will survive, and you too will be able to say, “I too beat cancer” down the road. You'll be able to say that, “I used to have cancer,” like the title of my book. That, I think, is the key to all of this.

[01:16:09] Ashley James: Tell us a little bit about the Uni Key Health Systems. You've mentioned you've created some supplements. It's been around for over 20 years.

[01:16:20] James Templeton: Uni Key stands for universal key to health is what I talked about it earlier, and that's getting to the root of health problems. That's getting down to the nitty-gritty, like detoxifying the parasites, detoxifying yeast and fungus out of your system, which is a big problem that’s caused from fungus, mold and too much sugar in the diet, too many carbohydrates in the diet.

I'm not a believer in getting totally off of carbohydrates. I believe that whole grains are important. I probably wouldn't have as many as I did and on the macrobiotic diet, but you need that fiber. Fiber is prebiotic. Fiber will help that promotes your immune system. But Uni Key stands for getting to the root, and that's the key to health. That's the universal key to health—getting down, getting to the root, and cleaning up from the ground up. Because if you don't go clean house, if you don't go clean the system out, you won’t absorb anyway. What's the point of eating all these vitamins and eating all this food if you're full of toxins?

You got to eat the right foods, the foods that help detoxify, the foods that are high in nutrients and minerals that will help chelate these heavy metals out of your body, the chemicals, and pesticides. That's what Uni Key is all about. It's about having product and testing modalities that we have to help people determine the underlying causes of toxicity so that they can detoxify and rebuild. Uni Key is more of a supplement business and health supply.

We sell water filters because water is probably the most important thing that you can put in your body. People can live a lot longer time on just water, but they can't live very long without water. They can live quite a while away from food, but we want to make sure that this water—that is such a big part of our system and our blood. That's pure water. So many people are drinking water out of plastic bottles nowadays. They are drinking water in restaurants. They are drinking water in their own home that is full of heavy metals. It's full of chlorine, full of aluminum—all this stuff that's causing toxicity and full of parasites.

[01:19:11] Ashley James: I love it. I'm so fascinated, and I'm thrilled that you created this company, Uni Key Health Systems. What is the website that people can go to see your supplements, your testing, and your water filters?

[01:19:27] James Templeton: It’s unikeyhealth.com.

[01:19:34] Ashley James: You mentioned you have the Templeton Wellness Foundation. I'm inspired by that. What website do they go to? Is that templetonwellness.com?

[01:19:46] James Templeton: Yes, templetonwellness.com.

[01:19:49] Ashley James: Anyone can access the videos of your interviews with the cancer survivors.

[01:19:55] James Templeton: Yes. It’s all free to the public, and my goal is to interview as many people. If anybody out there knows someone that has gone through a stage 4 or 3 probably type of cancer and has survived for ten years or more using the combination of conventional and natural healing modalities are all natural. I would love to speak with them, and they can contact us at a Templeton Wellness Foundation. If you want to contact stuart@templetonwellness.com that would be great. We would love to interview these people, so the more we can help people. That's all we're about.

We're not selling anything. We don't have any affiliates. I'm not promoting my business. This is about helping to sell hope and giving people knowledge based on real-life stories—living proof stories, I guess you could say. That's my goal.

It's pretty simple, but I was inspired by the people that I read about. They got well, and many others that we didn't even mention that I felt like if they could get well, then I could too. What did they do? We've interviewed several people now, and we're trying to get started here, but the people that I interviewed have similar common threads they've used in healing modalities.

I find that very interesting. The things that are working are very similar, and vitamin C is one of them. There's a number of things that I'm finding, but it doesn't shock me at all that people with pancreatic cancer, 10, 11 years down the road, they're still doing well. They were written off that many years ago, and they're still doing fine. Yes, they changed their diet. Yes, they changed their lifestyle a little bit. But, my gosh, you know, they're living and thriving. They have their businesses. A lot of them are giving back to help others. They get to see their grandchildren grow up and, and that's what life's all about. It's not like you get a diagnosis and you’re a goner. There's hope, whether it's cancer or heart disease, whatever. You just got to be willing to make changes and roll up your sleeves and get after it. It's there for the taking, but it's up to the individual. Some people want to do it, and some don't. You can't make anybody do anything they wouldn't want to.

When people know—just like me, when they know, they know. It's like you don't have to have someone try to talk you into it. It's like you just know. It's like when I do something, I know I need to do it for myself. I know deep inside of me, I got to do that. I'm supposed to do that, and I got to do that. I don't need someone to be beating at my door to try to convince me.

[01:23:35] Ashley James: I liked that you said to roll up your sleeves and get to work, do the hard work because when it comes to healing and transformation, it does start with mindset. People who are morbidly obese, people who have diabetes, people who have Lyme disease—the first step is the decision to roll up your sleeves and change because you can't change disease state with the same lifestyle, diet, and habits that created that disease state. And so it does take overhauling your whole life, and yeah, that's hard.

[01:24:12] James Templeton: Well, it's like the water's rising. Do you want to swim, or do you want to drown?

[01:24:17] Ashley James: Exactly. It is very hard to stop eating sugar. But you know what's harder? Living with the disease. So I liked that you said roll up your sleeves and get to work and we can all do that. We don't have to have a diagnosis of anything. We can all roll up our sleeves and go, “You know what, it's time to cut out the sugar or the coffee,” or whatever advice that you know down in your gut has been moving you in the direction of ill health.

So I love that you pointed that out and I think that your videos are going to be a tremendous help to so many people, spreading hope and wellness information. Thank you so much for doing that. I'll make sure the links to everything you do is in the show notes of today's podcast at learntruehealth.com.

One last thing, can you please tell us about your book that's coming out? Of course, we're going to have a link to your book, I Used to Have Cancer. Tell us about it.

[01:25:09] James Templeton: I'm very excited, and the book is going to tell my story. It's about my memoirs. It talks about my life. A lot of it talks about where I come from. It tells you about what I went through, my feelings on a deep level. It talks about the three knocks on the door, and it tells you all that kind of puts the pieces of the puzzle altogether. It tells you the things that I did and how I felt and why I felt like I got well, and then it tells you about the things I would do if I had to do it all over again knowing what I know today. This would be very helpful for those going through it today, and it will inspire you—I know it. It's a very good story, and it's an easy read.

It's I Used to Have Cancer. It's on Square One Books, and you can preorder it at amazon.com, of course. I think it's going to do well. It was selected as one of the best new up and coming books for the spring, Publisher’s Weekly, which they say as a big deal, I don't know. I mean, cancer is a big deal—one out of two people. Everybody knows somebody. It's not rocket science. It's actually easy. The hard work again, is rolling up your sleeves and doing the work.

But once you do it, you start to feel better and better, whether it's getting off of the sugar or whatever. After a couple of weeks or a little bit more, you start not to miss the sugar because it's amazing how the body starts to transform and starts to bring itself back to that balance that we talked about.

That's the real key—once the body becomes balanced again. It doesn't take more than three, four, or five months to get things going in the right direction. Once you see that, you're going to start to see the numbers come down into where it needs to be, and you're going to start to believe. Seeing is believing as we always say, and the sky is the limit.

Sometimes a cancer diagnosis could be considered one of the best things that ever happened to us because it makes us sometimes get into the things that we're here to really do. Our true calling sometimes is based on something that just gets our attention. A lot of people don't like to hear that, and they think that's terrible, but I feel that way. I feel that that's a blessing sometimes. Some of these problems we have in life because they’re obstacles are the key factors that create change.

[01:28:26] Ashley James: Brilliant. Thank you so much for sharing this information, especially the hope that you give people to take back control of their life, and the knowledge that they can do that even when they have a late stage diagnosis of cancer. I love your work. I am such a big fan of you now just like I'm a fan of your partner Ann Louise.

Listeners can go to episode 284 to hear her interview, and please listeners, share this information. Share these two episodes to spread this information and help as many people as possible to know that they can heal their body and that cancer is not a death sentence.

James, it’s been such a pleasure having you on the show today. Is there anything that you'd like to say to the listener to wrap up today's interview?

[01:29:20] James Templeton: Ashley, it's been wonderful to be with you this time to let me share my story and to help as many people as I can out there. I wish everyone that's going through a cancer battle or know someone or are as close to someone in any way understands that getting well is available, and cancer is not a death sentence. And the last thing I like to always think is whether you believe in God or believe in a higher power or believe in just something good happening on a larger level.

But I like to always say that God helps those who help themselves. You just have to ask, and when you get that message and it's not easy, but it will come to you when you needed it at the worst time.

[01:30:20] Ashley James: Brilliant. Thank you so much, James. Thank you for coming on the show. It's been such a pleasure. You're welcome back anytime.

[01:30:27] James Templeton: Thank you so much.

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Ashley James is a Holistic Health Coach, Podcaster, Rapid Anxiety Cessation Expert, and avid Whole Food Plant-Based Home Chef. Since 2005 Ashley has worked with clients to transform their lives as a Master Practitioner and Trainer of Neuro-linguistic Programming.

Her health struggles led her to study under the world’s top holistic doctors, where she reversed her type 2 diabetes, PCOS, infertility, chronic infections, and debilitating adrenal fatigue.

In 2016, Ashley launched her podcast Learn True Health with Ashley James to spread the TRUTH about health and healing. You no longer need to suffer; your body CAN and WILL heal itself when we give it what it needs and stop what is harming it!

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