142: Ketogenic Diet

Dr. David Jockers and Ashley James

I discovered my guest, Dr. David Jockers when I first listened to Ty Bollinger and his views about cancer. He's also a Doctor of Natural Medicine and a functional Nutritionist who is going to educate us today on the ketogenic diet for detox and healing other diseases naturally.

Jockers is a phenomenal Chiropractor who only after his first year, had such incredible success.

Holistic Background

Jockers' mom was always very Holistic. She eventually became a Naturopath. So Jockers never took prescription or medication, and his family grew a lot of their food in their garden. He was already living a healthier lifestyle than most people around him.

But Jockers struggled with digestive issues despite being athletic. In his 20s, his digestive issues were full blown. He dealt with irritable bowel syndrome and lost weight. His adrenals also were not functioning properly.

Jockers started researching and made changes in nutrition and lifestyle. His health improved and that inspired him to go to chiropractic school.

Developing Skin Cancer

Jockers put up his clinic after he graduated. He was 27 years old and was working a lot. All of a sudden, he developed skin cancer on his nose.

So Jockers had to work on his health emotionally, mentally and spiritually. And for his body consuming so many carbohydrates, Jockers usually felt better when he was on a low carb diet.

Because his body was always so exhausted, he would crave carbs and eat at night. Eventually, Jockers thought of moving out of his clinic, hire an associate doctor and change his life.

Back in 2011, Jockers never even heard of the ketogenic diet. When he did his diet, the nodule on his nose completely went away. It was a confirmation that the body can heal itself.

“When we remove the interferences—toxins, bad diet, bad thinking, too little or too much exercise, the body will do what it is designed to do, which is heal and repair,” said Jockers.

Healing With The Ketogenic Diet

Since then, Jockers started researching on the ketogenic diet and lifestyle strategies. The ketogenic diet eventually became his tool to help many people heal naturally.

Jockers says everybody will be able to benefit from ketones as an energy source at least for some period. There are two primary energy sources: breakdown of sugar or glucose and the breakdown of fatty acids.

So when we think of ketones, we think of the body being able to metabolize fats as an energy source. People who will struggle are those who have adrenal fatigue because they are metabolically inflexible.

Jockers also advises that pregnant women should not get into a ketogenic diet. He also says there are also different opinions on kids and athletes. Athletes could benefit from it, but I don't recommend it for extended periods of time.

“People who will benefit from ketogenic diet have neurodegenerative disorders like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease,” Jockers said. “I also recommend the diet combined with fasting and low carb diet to those with brain cancers and several other cancers.”

The ketogenic diet is also good for people who are trying to lose weight as well as individuals who have diabetes.

In Jockers' experience, it's easier to get men into ketosis compared to women. This is because women have more hormonal fluctuations and stress issues.

How Ketogenic Diet Works

Everybody will benefit from burning ketones when at rest and burning sugar when we are doing something that is stressful or high intensity like exercise.

“Glucose or sugar is what we call ‘dirty fuel.' The reason is that it is very inefficient,” Jockers explains. “So we don't produce a whole lot of cellular energy breaking down sugar, and we produce a lot of metabolic wastes.”

The benefit of burning sugar is that our body can do it very quickly. But again, we won't produce a lot of cellular energy.

“The waste product is lactic acid. Our body can convert that back into a usable energy source, but it takes time to do that,” said Jockers. “So when we're in the sugar-burning mode, we produce a lot more acid than we should, and we're also producing a lot more free radicals.”

Free radicals are wild electrons or wild atoms that are going around causing chaos like damaging DNA and mitochondria.

As opposed to ketones, when we burn ketones, we produce an amount of cellular energy. Somewhere between 16 to 18 times more cellular energy from ketone molecule than glucose molecule. On top of that, we produce significantly less waste.

Ketones are a fantastic fuel source for our body. So when our body is at its best, we are using ketones when we are at rest. Therefore, we have enough oxygen to be able to use these ketones as our primary energy source.

So we want to have that flexibility on our metabolism wherein our body is very good at converting energy. It will eventually lead us to have anti-aging benefits and reduce our risk of chronic disease and improve our mental function.

Ketogenic Diet To Beat Cancer

“Ketogenic diet is beneficial to cancer patients because it helps keep inflammation under control,” Jockers explains. “Cancer cells have a metabolic arrangement. The mitochondria itself is damaged by cancer cells. So instead, all they can do is burn sugar.”

The ketogenic diet lowers the circulating blood glucose or sugar. By reducing the circulating blood sugar, this hormone called insulin lowers. Insulin is supposed to get the sugar out of the bloodstream and into the cell.

But insulin also is pro-inflammatory, so it increases inflammation when it's elevated and increases cell reproduction. So when we lower insulin, we reduce the rate of cancer cells reproduce quickly.

Jockers also says that because there is a little amount of glucose or sugar circulating, the cancer cells are not getting the energy substrates it needs. And it depends on that energy substrates to create a defense system against our body's immune system.

“When the blood sugar goes down, the ketones go up. And ketones can be used as an excellent energy source,” said Jockers. “So the healthy cells are doing good because they are thriving with ketones. Whereas the cancer cell can't use the ketones.”

Now it will be easier for our body's immune system to target and destroy the cancer cells. Chemotherapy or any other therapy will be much more effective because the cancer cells are now weaker. Oxygen also kills cancer cells.

Ketogenic Diet For Detox

Ketogenic diet reduces free radicals and inflammation. So in general, our goal in detoxification is real to reduce inflammation overall.

We can have some different chemicals that we don't necessarily want in our cells. The fat cells are burned and in effect, mobilizes the toxins in our body.

“As long as our liver and bile production is working well, we can grab those toxins in the gut and help pull them out through the feces,” Jockers explains. “Ketogenic diet is going to get those things mobilized.”

For people using the diet for a detoxification program, Jockers recommends the use of additional supplements particularly for phase 1 and two liver detoxification. Binders like activated charcoal can also help the body grab the toxins in the gut.

Jockers also says that the ketogenic diet is not bad unless one is a type 1 diabetic where one cannot produce any insulin at all. Having mild ketosis is very therapeutic for the body and helps our body preserve minerals like calcium, potassium, and magnesium.

Ketogenic Diet Vs. Atkins Diet

Jockers says some people just don't know how to do the ketogenic diet right. The Atkins diet is a high protein diet and not necessarily a ketogenic diet.

He says that the ketogenic diet involves a lot of non-starchy vegetables and not high protein. Usually, 20 grams of protein a day is recommended. Shakes, salads, nuts, and seeds are also highly recommended.

Avocado, coconut oil, coconut butter, and olives are also very beneficial. Just consume meat once a day like grass-fed beef.

Vegans and vegetarians will have a harder time on this diet, but a lot of vegetarians will also eat eggs because it is a great fat source with moderate protein. If you don't do eggs, substituting with avocados is fine.

Dr. David Jockers DNM, DC, MS is a doctor of natural medicine, functional nutritionist, and corrective care chiropractor. He currently owns and operates Exodus Health Center in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Super Charge Your Brain

He is also the author of the best-selling book “SuperCharge Your Brain” the complete guide to radically improve your mood, memory and mindset and the SuperCharged Recipe book with over 180 full-color recipes to help you take back control of your health.

He has developed 6 revolutionary online programs with thousands of participants. These programs include E-guides, recipe guides, meal plans and video instructions including “The Sugar Detox,” “The Cancer Cleanse,” “Navigating the Ketogenic Diet,” and “The Digestive Health Restoration Program,” and “The AutoImmune Elimination Program” and the “Super Brain Program.”

Dr. Jockers is a sought after speaker around the country on such topics as weight loss, brain health, functional exercise, natural detoxification and disease prevention. Dr. Jockers sees patients at his clinic, Exodus Health Center and he does long-distance consultations by phone or Skype to help customize specific lifestyle plans to help individuals improve performance and beat the chronic disease.

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Ashley James

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Ashley James is a Holistic Health Coach, Podcaster, Rapid Anxiety Cessation Expert, and avid Whole Food Plant-Based Home Chef. Since 2005 Ashley has worked with clients to transform their lives as a Master Practitioner and Trainer of Neuro-linguistic Programming.

Her health struggles led her to study under the world’s top holistic doctors, where she reversed her type 2 diabetes, PCOS, infertility, chronic infections, and debilitating adrenal fatigue.

In 2016, Ashley launched her podcast Learn True Health with Ashley James to spread the TRUTH about health and healing. You no longer need to suffer; your body CAN and WILL heal itself when we give it what it needs and stop what is harming it!

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