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We’re back with the author of the book, The Resonance Effect. Still talking about how frequency specific microcurrent is changing medicine, The Resonance Effect author Dr. Carolyn McMakin will expound on how it can make a significant change in our life.

Seeing Patterns

Dr. Carolyn McMakin says the Frequency Specific Microcurrent (FSM) community has been doing this for 22 years. They started treating pain and then in 2000; they found out they could address the spinal cord.

In 2002, Dr. Carolyn McMakin started teaching stroke patients. They eventually also found out they could treat the nervous system as well as the immune system and the gut.

“With chronically ill patients, certain patterns become apparent. Autoimmune disease is where your immune system has decided that your connective tissue and the capillaries belong to somebody else,” said Dr. Carolyn McMakin.

She adds, “They get incredibly inflamed, and because of the inflammation, they scar. We have frequencies to reduce inflammation and dissolve scar tissue.”


Dr. Carolyn McMakin read something in the past that when you have a stressful event, you don’t want your heart rate to be slow and immune system suppressed. So, the nervous system fixes that.

“It’s not a coincidence that 80% or fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and chronically ill patients have a history of early heart childhood trauma before the age of 7,” Dr. Carolyn McMakin said. “That mid-brain sets the fire and threshold much lower. It takes almost nothing to set off the stress signals in the middle of the brain.”

Infectious agents

Dental infections and mold infections jack up the immune system. But Dr. Carolyn McMakin says they have frequencies that are alleged for infectious agents. And there are frequencies for certain parasites and certain bacteria.

“But I don’t want to withhold appropriate medical intervention on the off chance that a frequency is going to kill this bug. People die of infections. It’s not safe and responsible,” said Dr. Carolyn McMakin.

Ultimately, Dr. Carolyn McMakin says it’s about how you survive long-term because her goal is to treat everyone who wants to be addressed and teach practitioners who can provide the treatment.

“It takes research and case reports published before you can even do clinical trials. It takes research to get to move the needle. And to move the information forward into the standard practice,” Dr. Carolyn McMakin said.

Heavy Metals

In 1999, Dr. Carolyn McMakin treated someone for mercury. After 10 minutes, he felt better. But on the next treatment which lasted 40 minutes, he was sick as he’s ever been. This taught Dr. Carolyn McMakin that the frequencies for heavy metals, in particular, have to be used with a combined and collaborative approach.

“Heavy metals are tricky. There are frequencies for organic toxins and regular toxins, inorganic toxins, and certain poisons. Toxicity and inflammation will change a huge number of symptoms,” said Dr. Carolyn McMakin.

Furthermore, she explains that when you treat somebody for toxicity, they don’t have detox reactions. They don’t get sick.

“Organic toxins will slide right into the membrane and lay in the membrane. When you get this heavy organic chemical that lays in this membrane, and it tips the access of this receptor, it changes it. So now the cell doesn’t work right. Because this toxin changes the receptor orientation configuration,” Dr. Carolyn McMakin said.

The Resonance Effect Book

The Resonance Effect is available on Amazon, or a signed copy can be purchased at www.frequencyspecific.com. The Resonance Effect tells the story of how FSM was developed and how is changing patient’s lives.

Frequency Specific Seminars teaches the FSM technique in four-day courses around the US, the UK, and Germany. You can take the course in person or on DVD. Sign up for the course or find a practitioner on www.frequencyspecific.com.

“I wrote the history chapter of The Resonance Effect between December 2015 to March 2016. And I started teaching seminars,” Dr. Carolyn McMakin recalled.

She adds, “I was supposed to write again in June or July of 2016. It was due in September. I still had chapters 3 to 9 of The Resonance Effect to write. So, I went to Colorado and holed up there to write six chapters and eight days.”

Life Changing

The effect of frequencies and resonance is profound and life-changing. Dr. Carolyn McMakin says there is a new way of treating pain and other conditions that are comfortable and safe. It’s worth learning if you’re a practitioner and it’s worth trying if you’re a patient.

Dr. Carolyn McMakin says you can get rid of the trigger points with the frequencies and the microcurrent. But they’re going to come back if you don’t think about why it happened. So that is usually beyond the capacity of the average layperson.

“The frequencies are very specific. You want the frequency to pulse. Because otherwise, the body gets bored with it. And some people find that if you are in the same frequency over a long period, the body tends to ignore it,” said Dr. Carolyn McMakin.

Frequency Mats

The Bemer mat or Pulse EMF mats provide a magnetic field that pulses. Where anytime you have a magnetic pulse, you move an electron. Moving an electron creates a magnetic field. Moving magnetic fields move electrons.

These devices reduce inflammation and increase ATP production. Dr. Carolyn McMakin says that’s why people feel better. But it doesn’t do what FSM does.

Training People

Dr. Carolyn McMakin started training Chiropractors and Naturopaths. Her team also train Acupuncturists. Medical physicians, on the other hand, have certain constraints based on what they call is the standard of care. But in 2000, Dr. Carolyn McMakin started getting medical physicians that were trained in functional medicine. And that is a perfect combination.

“We train nurses, and in certain states, massage therapists can use it. But they have a little bit of trouble keeping up because they’re not allowed to diagnose,” explains Dr. Carolyn McMakin. “And their knowledge of anatomy is not as detailed as people that have been through the more rigorous and longer training.”

Dr. Carolyn McMakin and her team also train athletic trainers. And they have devices with over 200 NFL and NHL athlete. There’s not much with NBA players, but some pro golfers and weight lifters also use FSM.

“It’s just not right at FSM is the best-kept secret in the country. So, getting the word out is the next step. I spent 22 years building a foundation of credibility and well-trained practitioners, proper equipment and reproducible results so that now when we get the word out, patients can find a trained practitioner,” said Dr. Carolyn McMakin.

She adds, “FSM means hope. It may not be a hundred percent, but it means that there’s an opportunity for a new way of looking at things and a new way of treating things to contribute to the patient’s comfort and well-being. FSM is changing medicine one patient at a time. My job is to change patient’s lives one practitioner at a time.”


Dr. Carolyn McMakin, MA, DC is the clinical director of the Fibromyalgia and Myofascial Pain Clinic of Portland, Oregon. She has a BA in Psychology from Santa Clara University and a Doctor Of Chiropractic from Western States Chiropractic College. She developed Frequency Specific Microcurrent (FSM) in 1995 and began teaching FSM courses in 1997. 

In addition to maintaining a part-time clinical practice, Dr. Carolyn McMakin teaches seminars on the use of FSM in the United States, Australia, Europe, and the Middle East. She has lectured at the National Institutes of Health and medical conferences in the US, England, Ireland and Australia on the subjects of fibromyalgia and myofascial pain syndrome, fibromyalgia associated with cervical spine trauma and on the differential diagnosis and treatment of pain and pain syndromes and sports injuries. She participates in clinical and basic science research on the effects of FSM at various institutions. 

Dr. Carolyn McMakin’s peer-reviewed publications include papers on the FSM induced changes in inflammatory cytokines and substance P seen with FSM treatment of fibromyalgia associated with spine trauma, treatment of pain in the head, neck and face, and low back caused by myofascial trigger points, delayed onset muscle soreness, shingles, and neuropathic pain. 

She consults with various NFL and MLB teams, therapists and players on the use of Frequency Specific Microcurrent in the treatment of sports injuries. Dr. Carolyn McMakin’s textbook Frequency Specific Microcurrent in Pain Management was published by Elsevier in 2010. The Resonance Effect, published by Penguin/Random House in March 2017, describes how FSM was developed and provides case reports and frequency protocols for the visceral uses of FSM.

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Healing with chronic pain is possible with the Resonance Effect. To those who have not heard of this, the Resonance Effect utilizes frequencies to address a lot of health issues. Hence my guest, Dr. Carolyn McMakin, is the best resource to explain how the Resonance Effect work.

The Resonance Effect can have positive results on health problems like fibromyalgia, myofascial pain, sports injuries, inflammation, trigger points, shingles, autoimmune, rheumatoid arthritis, and scleroderma. This was after Dr. Carolyn McMakin discovered a type of methodology that helps tissue to heal and relieve chronic persistent pain.

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Early Years

Dr. Carolyn McMakin taught the Resonance Effect it for the first time in 1997. She started treating chronic pain patients and around 4,000 practitioners worldwide.

But before diving into a career centering on healing people using the Resonance Effect, Dr. Carolyn McMakin recalled the time when she was 39 years old, married and with kids who were 3 and seven years old.

Living in San Diego at that time, her husband was planning to go to Portland to pursue studies in a chiropractic college. But Dr. Carolyn McMakin also had an interest in medicine.

Making Her Path

Before she married, Dr. Carolyn McMakin became a pharmaceutical salesman at age 25 after graduating from college. She had a couple of sales jobs in 1971, and the time, there were only three pharmaceutical salesmen in the country in the country.

Dr. Carolyn McMakin spent so many years selling drugs. One day, a friend encouraged her that she should pursue medicine as well.  Dr. Carolyn McMakin didn’t take it seriously until the next day at Sunday Church. The sermon was about vocations, so Dr. Carolyn McMakin took it as a sign to go to chiropractic school as well.

Dr. Carolyn McMakin was lucky her father provided enough income so that she could start pre-med in two years in Portland. She was 40 years old. Although she was qualified to get into a medical school a couple of years later, Dr. Carolyn McMakin dropped out of school to take care of her mother who had pancreatic cancer.

Dr. Carolyn McMakin, later on, got divorced and took five years to finish chiropractic college. Graduating at 47, Dr. Carolyn McMakin started a practice utilizing a machine using frequencies to address health issues.

Discovering The Machine

In 1934, there was a decree that drugs and surgery were the only legitimate tools of medicine. According to Dr. Carolyn McMakin, herbs, homeopathy and nutrition, and electromagnetic therapies were outlawed. And any medical physician that use them would lose their license to practice.

In 1946, an osteopath and naturopath named Harry Van Gelder found a machine with a list of frequencies that was made in 1922. He taught himself how to use it. Eventually, tumors and cancers were easy for him to address.

Drs. Carolyn McMakin and George Douglas started using specific frequencies of microcurrent in 1994. It had been previously researched by Harry Van Gelder, for use on different health issues. 

Gaining Traction

In 1995, the use of frequencies was used on Dr. Carolyn McMakin’s patients with fibromyalgia and myofascial pain. She did a continuing lecture at Portland state and became the local expert.

By September 1996, outcomes of fibromyalgia and myofascial pain were too good to be true, so Dr. Carolyn McMakin had to find out if it was reproducible.

She taught for the first time in January 1997 to 20 to 25 students. About 6 to 8 of them bought the precision microcurrent machine.

“In June 1997, we knew it was reproducible. So, I kept teaching it. I published the first paper in 1998 because I came out of allopathic medicine and I published 50 cases of chronic head, neck and face pain,” shares Dr. Carolyn McMakin.

She adds, “It took 11 sessions in 8 weeks to get their pain down below the 1.5. And that was because I didn’t know what I was doing. Now it’s much easier because we know that we have to treat the underlying pathology that drives the muscles to be tight.”

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More Discoveries

In 1998, Dr. Carolyn McMakin stumbled on the way they treat neck pain. She says there was a list of conditions that you put on one channel and there was a list of tissues that you put on the other channel.

“So myofascial pain is from the muscle belly, fascia and the connected tissue. Nerve pain is from the nerve. There is a frequency for the nerve,” Dr. Carolyn McMakin explains.

Dr. Carolyn McMakin also revealed that in the early 90s, the physical therapy community had been told that because you couldn’t feel it, frequencies couldn’t be doing anything, and it was not effective. So, it fell out of favor.

“Just the current flow increases ATP or energy production in cells by 500% in something like 30 minutes. Between 500 and 1,000 microcurrents, the ATP production leveled off,” said Dr. Carolyn McMakin.

She adds, “And by the time you get to tens level current that you can feel, you’re reducing ATP or energy in the cells. So, you can’t feel it. When the frequency is correct, people feel an induced euphoria.”

Treating Patients

In 1999, Dr. Carolyn McMakin was asked to join a medical pain management group in northwest Portland. It was a whole new level of patient complexity. It was the first place where Dr. Carolyn McMakin, a patient with full body pain.

“I looked on the list, and there was a frequency for the spinal cord. So, I put 40 hertz on channel A and 10 hertz on channel B. She got relaxed and got so floaty. The pain receded from her feet up,” said Dr. Carolyn McMakin. “The session lasted 60 minutes. She came back a week later, and I treated her five to six more times in my clinic. But she lived far so she stopped coming.”

Dr. Carolyn McMakin got even more interested in learning more and dug into medical literature. Here she found out that the discs in our spine are chemically active. They are inflammatory. And when you reduce the inflammation, the pain goes down.

“I’m pretty skeptical, but it took five years treating roughly 70 to 90 patient visits a week. I had around 30,000 to 40,000 individual treatments to believe that the frequencies always do what they are described as doing. So, if I make a choice that doesn’t work, it’s not that the frequencies aren’t working. It’s that I picked the wrong thing,” Dr. Carolyn McMakin said.

She adds, “Over time, we found out what we can treat and can’t treat, frequencies to reduce inflammation and dissolve scar tissue are the ones most reliable. Then there are frequencies on a whole additional sheet from another one of Harry’s list that we teach.”

Dr. Carolyn McMakin also shares that she started treating sports injuries as well, after teaching a sports seminar in 2003. She even ended up treating members of the San Francisco 49ers and produced significant results with zero swelling and zero bruising.

Rife Machine Vs. Biological Resonance

Royal Raymond Rife was an American scientist who invented the Rife machine. The Rife machine produces energy similar to radio waves.

Some people say that Rife machines help cure cancer and treat other conditions like Lyme disease and AIDS. Royal Raymond Rife believed bacteria or viruses inside tumors emitted specific electromagnetic frequencies (EMFs). Hence, Royal Raymond Rife developed a microscope that could detect EMFs from bacteria and viruses by the color of their auras.

“The lessons of Rife is the reason why I started teaching it. Because they can take out Rife by taking out one guy,” said Dr. Carolyn McMakin. “So by the time I got to 200 practitioners, I figured we were too good to stop. Rife didn’t publish anything, so I started publishing in 1998. Ultimately, I kept teaching it.”

On the other hands, Dr. Carolyn McMakin says the basic principle of biological resonance is the same as the way the Rife frequencies work. But their frequencies are below 1,000 hertz, all just directly on the body.

“And because I don’t want to end up living in Mexico or the Caribbean, we do not treat cancer. We can get rid of cancer pain, and I can get rid of nausea from chemotherapy, prevent scarring from radiation burns, and treat to keep the quality of life better with cancer,” Dr. Carolyn McMakin said.

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Cell Membranes

According to Dr. Carolyn McMakin, drugs and nutrient intake affects the cells. It changes the membrane receptors, and that changes the way the cell works inside. Frequencies affect the same receptors with a signal. And the frequencies act as if they are changing the cell membrane receptor function and into our cellular function.

“The only thing that changed in four to six hours are the genes inside the cell. Some genes are turned on immediately by bleeding, inflammation, tissue fragments, torn tissue. And some genes are turned on instantly in the first two hours and those things are off at hour six,” explains Dr. Carolyn McMakin.


There are so many causes for fatigue. So, Dr. Carolyn McMakin says the assumption that fatigue is mitochondrial dysfunction, is completely invalid. Cardiovascular disease causes fatigue. Sleep apnea causes fatigue. Even infection from root canals, viral infection, infected gall bladder or pathogen in the gut causes inflammation and then causes fatigue as well.

“I want something I can see, something I can measure, something that will change patient’s symptoms and pain,” said Dr. Carolyn McMakin.

Want to learn more about the resonance effect and how frequencies can heal? Head on to the next episode and check out Part Two of my interview with Dr. Carolyn McMakin.


Dr. Carolyn McMakin, MA, DC is the clinical director of the Fibromyalgia and Myofascial Pain Clinic of Portland, Oregon. She has a BA in Psychology from Santa Clara University and a Doctor Of Chiropractic from Western States Chiropractic College. She developed Frequency Specific Microcurrent (FSM) in 1995 and began teaching FSM courses in 1997. 

In addition to maintaining a part-time clinical practice, Dr. Carolyn McMakin teaches seminars on the use of FSM in the United States, Australia, Europe, and the Middle East. She has lectured at the National Institutes of Health and medical conferences in the US, England, Ireland and Australia on the subjects of fibromyalgia and myofascial pain syndrome, fibromyalgia associated with cervical spine trauma and on the differential diagnosis and treatment of pain and pain syndromes and sports injuries. She participates in clinical and basic science research on the effects of FSM at various institutions. 

Dr. Carolyn McMakin’s peer-reviewed publications include papers on the FSM induced changes in inflammatory cytokines and substance P seen with FSM treatment of fibromyalgia associated with spine trauma, treatment of pain in the head, neck and face, and low back caused by myofascial trigger points, delayed onset muscle soreness, shingles, and neuropathic pain. 

She consults with various NFL and MLB teams, therapists and players on the use of Frequency Specific Microcurrent in the treatment of sports injuries. Dr. Carolyn McMakin’s textbook Frequency Specific Microcurrent in Pain Management was published by Elsevier in 2010. The Resonance Effect, published by Penguin/Random House in March 2017, describes how FSM was developed and provides case reports and frequency protocols for the visceral uses of FSM.

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Frequency Specific Microcurrent in Pain Management 

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Dr. Stacey Shillington And Ashley James

Many of you may have heard of Holistic Dermatology, and some of you may have not. Holistic Dermatology indeed exists. And it’s all about healing your skin with Naturopathic Medicine. To explain how Holistic Dermatology works, join me and my guest, Dr. Stacey Shillington in this episode.

Acne Struggles

Dr. Stacey Shillington grew up in Alberta in the 80s and dealt with acne. At the time, she had no idea what Naturopathic Medicine or Holistic Dermatology was. As a teenager, she tried topical creams, and her doctor even put her on the birth control pill to control her acne.

For a few years, everything was fine. But in her late 20s, Dr. Stacey Shillington wanted to go off birth control. She got into yoga to get into her body and get interested in health.

Eventually, Dr. Stacey Shillington decided to get off the birth control pill. As a result, her skin completely flared up. She recalls being in Asia at the time traveling the world.

When this happened, it changed Dr. Stacey Shillington’s personality. She was outgoing before the flare up and turned to hide away from the world. Dr. Stacey Shillington was shocked at how much her acne changed her personality. Then when she went back to Toronto, Dr. Stacey Shillington couldn’t face going back to her old job nor meet her friends.

“Doctors suggested many things. Looking back, I’m surprised I didn’t go for those options because I was so desperate. But something inside me said that wasn’t the solution,” recalls Dr. Stacey Shillington. 

She adds, “I spent a ton of money trying everything out there. So, I spent all my time researching skin care. Not much made my skin better. I was married when I went off the birth control pill, and my skin flared up. Then I ended up getting divorced.” 

Seeking Natural Remedies

Somebody then suggested to Dr. Stacey Shillington to see a Naturopathic Doctor. The Naturopathic Doctor wasn’t able to completely clear her skin, but the doctor really changed Dr. Stacey Shillington’s philosophy on health care and eventually fast-tracked her journey to learn about Holistic Dermatology.

“She said my skin is like this because there is an imbalance in my body. And the way to heal your skin is to balance your body and find the root cause of your acne,” shares Dr. Stacey Shillington. “So, I went back to school to become a Naturopathic Doctor, so I could learn how to do this.”


Dr. Stacey Shillington realized acne and skin care problems are debilitating to people. They affect our quality of life. And the solutions out there are not solving the problem. There’s a huge void. So that is what inspired Dr. Stacey Shillington to go back to school and learn all about Holistic Dermatology.

“My whole career as a Naturopath has been focused on treating the skin, learning how to heal the skin, really helping people get their lives back and living their lives fully,” Dr. Stacey Shillington said.

More To Learn

A year after graduation, Dr. Stacey Shillington started working in a dermatology clinic in Toronto. She worked there for about 11 years. Time and work allowed her to become proficient in her career.

“When I was a Naturopathic Doctor studying, they always said the gut and the skin are intimately related. And it’s true. Your skin is often a reflection of what’s going on in your gut,” said Dr. Stacey Shillington.

Dr. Stacey Shillington also said that there are tons of research in the last 6 to 10 years about the microbiome. There are a hundred trillion microbes that live in our gut and on our skin. And when there’s an imbalance in the microbiome in the gut, eventually that imbalance is going to present itself on the skin.

Right Diet

According to Dr. Stacey Shillington, changing your diet and eating foods that are less inflammatory is essential. This is to heal your skin and to reduce inflammation in the gut. Healing gut is critical to improving your skin.

“You can be eating the very best diet, but if your gut is in trouble if you have an overgrowth of certain pathogens, that has to be addressed as well in addition to changing the diet. This is to heal the skin fully,” Dr. Stacey Shillington advises. 

She adds, “I get my patients into an anti-inflammatory diet. There are certain foods out there that cause inflammation more than other foods. Dairy is a very inflammatory food especially for people who have acne.”

Recommended Foods

Sugar is a drug in itself. And Dr. Stacey Shillington says it impairs insulin sensitivity. It leads to high androgens and again points to acne. High sugar fruits, maple syrup, and honey also have the same effect.

“It’s not that you can never eat these foods again. But you cannot eat these foods while you are healing the gut and reducing inflammation in the body,” said Dr. Stacey Shillington.

Dr. Stacey Shillington on the contrary, reveals that berries are amazing for acne patients. It is because berries reduce inflammation and have a low glycemic index. They’re not likely going to spike insulin levels. 

“I also love cruciferous vegetables. Broccoli, arugula, cauliflower, and brussels sprouts detoxify the liver. Food is a fantastic medicine, and it can help the body function so much more efficiently. It sets the stage for diving in to start healing the skin,” Dr. Stacey Shillington said. 

Other Foods To Avoid

Dr. Stacey Shillington shares that doctors at the turn of the century used to call acne diabetes of the skin. So, treating acne as a metabolic condition is often one of the keys to solving it.

“I love berberine. It is amazing for acne. Not only does it help regulate the blood sugar, but it also helps support the liver, and it is also anti-microbial. So, it helps solve any dysbiosis in the gut,” Dr. Stacey Shillington said.

According to Dr. Stacey Shillington, chocolate is so inflammatory for people with skin problems because it contains theobromine. She says there was a May 2014 study where it showed that theobromine could increase acne. Thus, dairy, sugar, and chocolate are the foods that should be looked at if you have inflammatory skin disorders.

The other food as well that many people find surprising is oatmeal. Dr. Stacey Shillington says oatmeal contains an element that decreases sex hormones binding globulin in the blood.

“And when you have decreased levels of it, you have more testosterone in the blood. Testosterone is an androgen and contributes to the production of acne,” explains Dr. Stacey Shillington.

To get started, Dr. Stacey Shillington recommends that for three days, eat vegetables, low glycemic index fruits, lean proteins and see how you feel. If you feel better than you did when eating grains, that is a sign that you need to spend some time not eating grains while you are healing and balancing your body.

“And I’m not saying forever because some starchy carbs are essential. Gluten is also so inflammatory. I can’t heal skin when people are eating gluten,” said Dr. Stacey Shillington.

Recommended Oils

Dr. Stacey Shillington said when there are too many omega-6 fatty acids in the body, it’s highly inflammatory. It is found in soybean oil, canola oil, sunflower oil, peanut oil, corn oil, a lot of other veggie oils.

Instead, focus on oils like olive oil which has omega-9 fatty acids, avocado oil, and coconut oil which is saturated fat. Also eat foods that are high in omega-3 fatty acids like salmon, mackerel, sardines, organic eggs, chia seeds, hemp seeds, and flax seeds. Dr. Stacey Shillington also advises to be aware of the oils we are using so we can reduce inflammation.

“Olive oil should be used raw. When it’s heated up at a certain temp, it starts to oxidize. That will create inflammation. So, cook with avocado or coconut oil. Fish oils can be beneficial, and it can make a difference on the skin,” Dr. Stacey Shillington said. 

She adds, “But for acne, I would never recommend fish oils. It’s one of the supplements that will contribute to acne. It’s much better to address other skin conditions like psoriasis.”

Dr. Stacey Shillington also mentions that every single cell of our body is composed of fatty acids. So, to have a healthy body, we have to make sure those cell membranes are indeed nourished.

“There’s a moisture barrier on the skin, and it looks like a brick wall. If the fatty acids are deficient, that brick wall is going to start to break down,” said Dr. Stacey Shillington. “And things that are not supposed to get into the body are going to get into the body and vice versa. So, it’s important to keep that moisture barrier intact to half healthy skin.”


We all manifest imbalances differently. Dr. Stacey Shillington says it’s based on our genes. But 90% of our health is determined by our lifestyle. Diet, sleep, and stress can also improve or worsen our skin condition.

“When you’re stressed and prone to acne, three different biochemical pathways that are activated in the body that contribute to acne,” said Dr. Stacey Shillington. 

She adds, “Exercise is also an important thing. Mindset is also huge. Positive mindset creates resilience against stress.”

Contributing Factors

How much sunlight, regular eating, sleeping, and wake times are also factors that contribute to healthy skin. Dr. Stacey Shillington also says relationships and resentments play a significant role as well.

Our emotions also play a significant role in good skin health. Meditation is essential, and Dr. Stacey Shillington says skin health is better when people practice self-love. You need to be relaxed for your body to heal. 

“Make sure your liver is supported, do detoxes and work on your gut. Try to work on your gut before you get off birth control pills. You want to be balanced as possible,” advises Dr. Stacey Shillington. 

She adds, “When you’re on birth control, you’re not making any natural estrogen or progesterone. It’s shutting down your natural hormone production. And it’s also suppressing androgens which are the hormones that are going to cause acne.” 

Effective Cleanse

Dr. Stacey Shillington recommends Manuka honey to cleanse. She also said that if you don’t have a microbiome that disrupted, you can use oil to cleanse, which is very beautiful and nourishing.

“If you do have a microbiome imbalance, which will result in fungal acne, use something like micellar water. Cleansing should be incredibly gentle. For moisture, use aloe vera gel or jojoba,” Dr. Stacey Shillington advises. 

She adds, “In the palm of your hand, put about a teaspoon of aloe vera gel and a teaspoon of the oil of your choice. Mix it vigorously with a finger for 30 seconds until it turns into a lotion. Apply to face and add essential oils if you like.”

Skin Care Classes

Dr. Stacey Shillington has some amazing classes that will teach you how to take care of your skin. Topping off the list is her 7-week Clear Skin Program which you can also sign up via my link www.learntruehealth.com/clearskin.  There’s a new module each week, and the lessons are simple yet effective.

Another excellent program is Dr. Stacey Shillington’s 8-Week Anti-Aging Skin Care Program. Like the 7-week program, it’s very holistic and effective as well so make sure to check it out on her website.

“I want to change the way the skin is approached. My experience and the treatments available right now are just not helping people and often making skin situations even worse. My mission is to help change that. Get some real healing going on with our skin,” said Dr. Stacey Shillington.


Dr. Stacey Shillington has been practicing Naturopathic Medicine in Toronto for over twelve years with some of the city’s top dermatologists. Inspired by her skin struggles, her specialty has always been healing the skin from the inside out. In addition to her private practice in Toronto, she owns Naturopathic Beauty and runs successful online acne and anti-programs. 

Dr. Stacey Shillington is also a mother to 2 boys and a dedicated yogi and meditator. She graduated from McGill University with a BComm in 1995 and the Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine in 2006. 

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We’re back again for part two of learning all about Holistic habits that can aid our road to wellness. And to prove it, my guest Kellyanne Andrews has so many stories to share about how she helped people heal through Holistic habits.

Educating People

Before getting into Holistic habits, you first have to be aware that the body is in chelation. That’s the thing Kellyann Andrews has always taught people about. The body is the one doing the filtering, it knows where the issue is, and it knows where the toxicity is.

“So, what we are doing is just opening up drainage routes like clogged liver, clogged heart or clogged lungs. The core of the body is made up of cells,” said Kellyann Andrews. “And those cells get ingested with internal toxicity which happens to be man-made chemicals like agricultural chemicals, and industrial chemicals including heavy metal.”

She says people generally feel overwhelmed because of the multiple exposures of these chemicals getting into their bodies simultaneously. Those chemicals start having interaction and create a worse compound. In return, the body tries to keep things under control.

How Platinum Energy Systems Work

With the Platinum Energy Systems technology, there are coils in the water. It creates pressure in the water. And when we put our feet in the warm salt water, it opens up the sweat glands. It allows the body to sweat out into the basin. Then in that content of the sweated particles, the coils attract the harmful particles.

“The technology helps to break up the particles. But what happens around your cells is that you have a liquid layer of fat and it completely clogs up. The health of the body is depending on two things — getting the nutrition in and toxicity out,” said Kellyann Andrews. 

She adds, “But when the cell wall is completely sealed off, the first thing you have to do is clean the aquarium. The internal environment inside the body is either assisting wellness or assisting illness.”

Achieving Wellness

Kellyann Andrews relates that when people come to see her, they are in the ownership of illness. That’s why they have to focus on regeneration. Kellyann Andrews says we need to change over to the visuals of wellness, vitality, and rejuvenation of endless energy and stamina.

“Put that visual, whatever that is representing in your mind and move into ownership. Don’t put your attention on your symptoms, your illness or what’s missing in your life,” Kellyann Andrews said. “Focus on what do you want to experience. And own it in the now. It has to be in the present tense.”

Unconscious and Conscious Life

Kellyann Andrews educates clients, telling them that they need to address the issue at the beginning of the upset. Whether it be a physical symptom, emotional feeling or mental thought. We have to learn to make distinctions between our conscious life and unconscious life.

“The unconscious life is when we are on autopilot. You catch yourself in the midst of having a reaction or an upset or whatever. And you stay conscious in that moment, and we choose what you want the result to be,” said Kellyann Andrews. 

She adds, “The more you stay conscious, the more you realize what is going on, on a mental level. You have to catch yourself in moments of life and re-train yourself to stay conscious. All of our challenging moments are impacting the emotional, mental and physical aspects.”

Kellyann Andrews also shares that if you’re moving to reactive mode, you are not helping your body at that moment to heal and repair. Having Holistic habits is all about having the right lifestyle choices and healing habits. 

Finding Hope

The Platinum Energy Systems technology works not only at the moment during a session. It continues to assist your body after the session.

Kellyann Andrews says a lot of people come to see her because it’s either their liver is not working at all, or it is faltering. After I did my past episodes with Kellyann Andrews, many of my listeners have sought her help. The health issues are endless, yet the success stories using Platinum Energy Systems are inspiring.

Kellyann Andrews recalled having a dialysis patient. Her practitioner worked with the patient and did 2 to 3 sessions a week with her. Her whole body was clogged with internal pollution. So, the primary goal was to clean the cells, so the functionality will come back. After several sessions, that woman’s health dramatically improved.

Kidney function can also improve significantly. One patient was no longer a kidney dialysis candidate after using Platinum Energy Systems. It baffled that patient’s doctor because there has never been a reversal of kidney failure before.

“Heavy metals will affect the mitochondria. In the mucky aquarium, you have high acidity and low oxygen. It’s the number one cause of the proliferation of virus, bacteria, fungus, and mold. The good guys thrive in high oxygen,” Kellyann Andrews explains.

Children also get how significant the Platinum Energy Systems is to their body, and Kellyann Andrews says they just completely chill out. The body is very understanding of the significance of the sessions. Most patients claim that after doing several sessions, their energy is up, breathing is more natural, they feel happier, lighter and brighter. Ultimately, they find joy in living again.


Kellyann Andrews says the body knows what it needs. Our body is so brilliant at helping us and also communicating to us what it wants. What we need to learn is to hear what is a yes and what’s a no.

“The wisdom of the body knows if it’s toxic and going into the danger response. Women have thyroid nodules but often will also have chronic skin issues as well as other autoimmune issues. One source of toxicity is nickel,” said Kellyann Andrews.

Nickel is found not only in dental amalgam but also in braces in the mouth and jewelry. Other sources include electronic devices, household appliances, batteries, lotion, vitamins, tobacco, tap water, transit railing, and many others. It’s being absorbed through the skin, that’s why people have all these flare-ups on their skin. 

More Holistic Habits

When clients know something is driving them crazy on a food level, Kellyann Andrews gets them to chart all the foods they eat and how they feel after. By doing this, you will find patterns starting to occur.

“The mood part is the mirror. One of the things that work well is how you start your day. How you start the day will set the tone and mood the entire day,” shares Kellyann Andrews. 

She adds, “When I get up first thing in the morning, I will drink glasses of water to flush the digestive tract. Then I do oil pulling. Using raw cold-pressed sesame oil is the best. It pulls stuff out of the brain as well as clean out the sinuses. Even pulls stuff from the lungs.”


Music is a significant aspect of Holistic habits. It is the one part that gets into us through vibration.  So ideally, put on your favorite music and completely absorb the vibration. Allow that beautiful energy to help you start your day.

“But behind the music, also do gratitude. Let go of the mindset of illness and move to the mindset of wellness. And let go of the dinosaur way of thinking and dinosaur way of being into the light and love that is so healing on this planet,” said Kellyann Andrews. 

She also advises everyone to do something nice for yourself to raise your vibration. The only point of choice in life is right now. Not the past nor the future. We must not focus on anger because anger only hurts yourself. Your choice is this moment and what you choose to focus on and what you choose to own.

“Think about this for one second. Where are you investing your time, energy and money? You only have one body in this lifetime. And that’s your investment should be focused,” Kellyann Andrews said.


Kellyann Andrews’ background is biochemistry, nursing, and holistic, alternative and energy medicine for 40 years. She is always digging deeper into the core of “well-being” – on all levels. 

Kellyann Andrews is a health coach by nature and trade. She does not have any specific certifications. She was at university and nursing school until a sudden family death which left her grief-stricken and devastated. Due to this experience, Kellyann Andrews stepped away from traditional medicine. 

Kellyann Andrews continued to educate herself by researching all areas of health recovery. This is now her life’s work – sharing discoveries and her recovery with others on the same path. 

When both parents died prematurely, and Kellyann Andrews suffered poor health, she was inspired to find ways of creating wellness at the cellular level. She is the President of Platinum Energy Systems, her husband and her own business – specializing in detoxification for health recovery and prevention. They have clients (home-users), medical clinics, and practitioners all over North America.

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Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton

Quantum-Touch by Richard Gordon

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Holistic habits have changed the lives of many. One of the things we’re always focusing on in the program is giving people advice on Holistic habits. But what better way than to hear actual stories of success on how Holistic habits effectively released toxins from our body and improved our health.

I’ve been a fan of the Platinum Energy Systems ever since I had Kellyann Andrews on the show. I had her as my guest on episodes 292 and 293. She’s, here again, to expound more on the benefits of Platinum Energy Systems and to embrace a lifestyle of Holistic habits.


Kellyann Andrews describes the whole journey like going into an important business meeting. You see yourself going ahead of the meeting and seeing everything goes harmoniously.

Then towards the end of the business meeting when you’re alone, you may find yourself dancing to celebrate because everything went fabulously. This, she says, is using the power of visualization, magnetization, prayer, and meditation.


As we go into this new year, Kellyann Andrews says what we reflect on is the progress that we have made. Being able to reflect is a significant Holistic habit because it’s so easy as human beings to focus on what needs correction.

“In looking in the mirror, we’re always looking for what’s wrong in the mirror. Let’s start a new habit,” advises Kellyann Andrews. “When you look in the mirror, you look at what’s right in the mirror. There’s a beautiful being looking back at you, a being that wants to advance and evolve and become a better self.” 

She adds, “And so at the beginning of this year, let’s reflect on all of what’s called the bright spots in your past. Reflect on it in terms of your health and all the things that helped you to move forward and moving to a new body.”

Kellyann Andrews further explains that is because our body can affect the blood cells to the tube of the digestion, esophagus and down to the gut. Those cells rejuvenate in a week. Other cells in the body take a little bit longer. Ultimately, our cells are designed to renew themselves.

Acute Illness vs. Chronic Illness

If the body is designing and creating new cells, then why is sickness continuing? Interesting point, right? Well, Kellyann Andrews says spring is the classic time of the year to do a cleanse or detox as part of your Holistic habits. It’s to get the old out and get the refuge out of the body.

“Difference between acute illness and chronic illness is toxicity. When old cells duplicate, they pass on the toxicity to the new cells. And that’s why spring is an important time of the year to do detoxification,” said Kellyann Andrews.

Success Stories

Kellyann Andrews recently had a male client who had extreme edema on his legs. His legs are the same width as his thigh and were so heavy that his wife had to help him move step by step.

The man’s wife eventually got a Platinum Energy Systems for her husband to use. And because they knew circulation was his number one issue, the challenge was to get the lymphatic system moving inside the body. After which everything can flow and get to where it needs to go. But with that male client, it was all jammed up.

“We opened up his sweat glands and circulatory system to release into the basin. And sure enough, this molten lava came out immediately. Out came the heavy metals. By the end of the session, he felt a difference in his legs. He was then able to sleep well and get out of his bed by himself,” Kellyann Andrews relates.

In another instance, Kellyann Andrews also had a client who was struggling with health issues. But after six months of using Platinum Energy Systems, she had no more fatty liver and even lost sixty pounds.

Treatment Period

People usually ask Kellyann Andrews how many sessions it would take before they get better. She says it depends on your age, lifestyle, diet, level of toxicity.

“Each person will have a genetic weakness where the illness will show up first in the body. But that genetic weakness is indicating that if the bottom right corner of the aquarium is mucky, then the whole aquarium is mucky,” said Kellyann Andrews.

Tipping Point

Kellyann Andrews says people are reaching into their 40s and having all these symptoms getting out of bed only means that they’ve reached the tipping point. Their bodies can no longer handle the toxic load, and it’s manifesting wherever the weakest link in the body is.

“Resilience is the key to health, and that will tell you at what state of well-being you are,” explains Kellyann Andrews.

Addressing Mercury

Kellyann Andrews recalls a female client whose score on mercury was 72. And 72 is an astronomical level. She was entirely not able to do anything. And when patients are in that state, they become very fearful and anxious. They’re afraid to do anything, take anything, and eat anything.

“The key thing is to give them hope. We started with 10-minute sessions with the Platinum Energy System at the start and got her confidence level up. Then we gradually increased it to 15 minutes then to 20 minutes,” recalls Kellyann Andrews.

She adds, “Eventually they progressed her to be able to do 30 minutes over time. Things started to liberate out of her body that was completely undermining every aspect of her health. Her mercury score is now at 10.”

Trust Your Body

Kellyann Andrews says the number one thing you should trust always is your own body. She recalled a time when she went into someone’s house one day and stayed for not more than 20 minutes.

Kellyann Andrews felt her throat started to tighten, and her lungs started to cough. Mucus started coming out of her lungs and nose. Even her eyes were affected. By the time she got out of the house, Kellyann Andrews was in respiratory distress.

Furthermore, she developed a severe headache. Going home, she immediately went into the session using her Platinum Energy Systems, and her symptoms stopped.

“Because what the body was needing was to get rid of that content. The body gives amazing clues. Our body has wisdom designed into its genetics on how and what it needs at any given moment and how to correct it,” said Kellyann Andrews.

She also said that women couldn’t physically correct the situation, so our body gives fight and flight cues. Our body will do what it can, but Kellyann Andrews says the Platinum Energy System helps people shift because it opens up the drainage routes.

“Heavy metals also create chaos frequencies. They also increase your EMF sensitivity. But also develop hyperreactivity to products. Your body is telling you it needs help to get rid of toxins,” said Kellyann Andrews.

Understanding Our Body

There’s a whole aspect to health being from the emotional component, mental component and physical. Kellyann Andrews says we all start in life with dramas and traumas. And it goes on repeatedly in the body. Hence, the body is continuously offended by bad or negative emotions.

The result is our body starting to feel unsafe. That’s when it also starts having alert signals. So, it’s really about learning how to listen to our body.

Choosing A Foot Spa

There are so many cheap foot spas in the market. And although it seems tempting to buy because it’s cheap, it is best to choose a quality product. 

According to Kellyann Andrews, many imitation knock-off foot spas are purporting to look like the Platinum Energy Systems design, but there’s no intelligence behind them. They will color up the water in the basin and make you believe the toxins are coming out but more often than not, there’s no truth to that.

“With our system, we have a hospital medical power source. It’s the same power source as a life support equipment. That is why it is that stable. There is intelligent technology. To monitor the water and see the level of electricity is. There is an ideal treatment level,” said Kellyann Andrews.

This ends part one of our interview. But there’s more so make sure to check out Part 2 of this amazing episode.


Kellyann Andrews’ background is biochemistry, nursing, and holistic, alternative and energy medicine for 40 years. She is always digging deeper into the core of “well-being” – on all levels. 

Kellyann Andrews is a health coach by nature and trade. She does not have any specific certifications. She was at university and nursing school until a sudden family death which left her grief-stricken and devastated. Due to this experience, Kellyann Andrews stepped away from traditional medicine. 

Kellyann Andrews continued to educate herself by researching all areas of health recovery. This is now her life’s work – sharing discoveries and her recovery with others on the same path. 

When both parents died prematurely, and Kellyann Andrews suffered poor health, she was inspired to find ways of creating wellness at the cellular level. She is the President of Platinum Energy Systems, her husband and her own business – specializing in detoxification for health recovery and prevention. They have clients (home-users), medical clinics, and practitioners all over North America.

Get Connected With Kellyann Andrews!

Official Website

Recommended Readings by Kellyann Andrews

Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton

Quantum-Touch by Richard Gordon

The New Human by Richard Gordon

Power of Now+Stillness Speaks by Eckhart Tolle

A Return To Love by Marianne Williamson

Recommended Links

Episode 292 – Creating Wellness

Episode 293 – Balancing pH

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Cassie Johnson And Ashley James

I’m sure most of us aim to be holistically thriving. After all, who wouldn’t want to live a life independent from drugs? My guest today, Integrative Nutrition Health Coach Cassie Johnson is a listener who told me the Learn True Health podcast significantly helped her fast track her road to a life that is holistically thriving.

Health Struggles

Cassie Johnson’s life today was a stark contrast from her past. It was far from being holistically thriving. She has dealt with amenorrhea, migraines, acne, SIBO, mineral deficiency, adrenal fatigue, an unhealthy diet, and stress.

Recalling her younger years, Cassie Johnson got all of her hormones tested. It’s because she had a lot of health struggles since she was 13 years old. She was getting terrible migraines, yet no one thought it could be a hormone issue.

Growing Up

So, Cassie Johnson went through high school and first had her period at 16 years old. At 17 years old, she started breaking out all over her chin and cheeks. Her mom took Cassie Johnson to her ob-gyn, but the doctor did not test her for hormone levels.

Instead, they just tested her growth hormone. They didn’t conduct an ultrasound to see if Cassie Johnson had any cyst on her ovaries. Cassie Johnson was eventually put on the pill and antibiotics for her acne. She was on that medication off and on for five years of her life.

Learning True Health

At age 22, Cassie Johnson was struggling with acne and still haven’t gotten another period. Her digestion was terrible, and so she decided to get hormones tested. The results came back, and it turned out that her estrogen and progesterone levels came back post-menopausal. It was a huge wake-up call. Ultimately, that set Cassie Johnson on a journey to find a way to be holistically thriving.

“My doctor told me to go back on the pill. I refused because I knew that it was synthetic hormones and not helping me whatsoever and I wanted to figure out the root cause of this issue,” recalls Cassie Johnson. “So that is how I found your podcast. Realized I shouldn’t go back to medication because food is a powerful medicine.”

The Road to Holistically Thriving

Cassie Johnson ended up taking Nicole Jardim’s Fix Your Period course, which was about natural ways to balance hormones. Incidentally, Nicole Jardim was a past guest on my show.

“She covered a lot of hormone imbalances that help me to eventually get to the root of my hormone imbalance which was the fact that my ovaries just weren’t working,” Cassie Johnson said. 

She added, “My testosterone was pretty low as well. So, I figured out it was my ovaries. And since then I’ve taken action to help boost my hormones naturally through food, natural remedies, acupuncture, and variety of other techniques.” 

Becoming a Health Coach

Today, Cassie Johnson is finally holistically thriving. Her estrogen is healthy now. And her progesterone level is getting better as well as her acne. She was genuinely amazed to see significant results.

Cassie Johnson also shared that she wanted to do more and this time, to help others. And as Cassie Johnson continued to change her diet and change her atmosphere, she also turned the way she handled stress.

Cassie Johnson’s mom took a course at the Institute for Integrative Nutrition in 2016, and that was part of why Cassie Johnson also wanted to enroll in a course there. Being able to become a coach was a bonus.

She loved the program because it was very client-driven. Through coaching, Cassie Johnson helps people work on issues on their own. She would be there to guide them and ask them the right questions.

Eating Healthy

Before Cassie Johnson made these changes, she thought she was eating healthy. She thought she knew what eating healthy was. And it was terrible for her metabolism.  She didn’t even realize she was doing it until she started this health journey.

“As I learned how to listen to my body, the biggest change I made was incorporating more vegetables. I started feeling better within days of doing that,” said Cassie Johnson. “And I also started a food and mood journal. I also paid attention to why I was eating and asked myself if it was because of hunger or stress.”

Cassie Johnson then experimented with different kinds of carbs. She was pretty much no carb or low carb last year. Then she implemented more grains, cutting all gluten, implementing supplements as well. 

“That was a huge benefit. I had low energy and supplements gave me that boost I needed to make it through the day,” Cassie Johnson said. 

Typical Diet

Cassie Johnson usually has two to three cups of veggies in the morning, a huge salad at lunch and dinner would be a plant-based diet. She does not make much of mini snacks. Usually, ingredients of her diet include spinach, assorted veggies, olives and banana peppers, avocado, beans and quinoa on top for protein. She adds balsamic vinegar, wine, and pepper for flavor.

Cassie Johnson also likes to incorporate sweet potatoes into her diet because it’s full of anti-oxidants. I do love sweet potatoes, and a favorite way to eat it is mixing raw cacao and coconut milk. It’s delicious and almost similar to chocolate mousse.

Cassie Johnson also loves to experiment with smoothies. She makes sure there are protein and collagen.

“I just found a great vegan protein that I have been putting in there. It has pea protein and digestive enzymes because pea protein is hard on our digestion,” said Cassie Johnson. “So, finding a vegan protein with the digestive enzymes was great. It tastes great and I even like putting in frozen blueberries and almond milk.”

Taking Supplements

Taking supplements is a big part of Cassie Johnson being holistically thriving. The longevity supplements she uses is the tangerine original which is like a berry flavor. It makes her smoothies taste like vanilla berry flavor.

“I had SIBO for years and didn’t know it. And when I got on the longevity supplements, there is a prebiotic, probiotic and the 2.0. My SIBO got so bad,” shares Cassie Johnson. “Now I stay away. It’s a blessing. My SIBO is gone now, and I have never figured out why my digestion was all messed up.”


Cassie Johnson says probiotics makes SIBO worse because it’s good bacteria in the wrong place. So, every time she takes the tangy tangerine, her stomach would start hurting. She knew it was the cause of it, but she just wasn’t sure why it didn’t click until her SIBO got terrible.

“There are two types of SIBO. My test came back negative. But I know my body, and I know what symptoms come with SIBO,” said Cassie Johnson. “I researched and found there is another type of SIBO called hydrogen sulfide. They do not test for this at the moment, so my test came back negative.” 

So, any foods high in sulfide like eggs, kale, and broccoli were the worst for Cassie Johnson. She had to cut out all those foods and started taking an herb mix called Calm Digestion from a company called Radiant Wonder. Taking GI Synergy also helped.

Positive Changes

Taking supplements had positive effects on Cassie Johnson. Within 48 hours, her energy level and sleep patterns improved. She managed stress better. Cassie Johnson also started using more natural products like natural soaps and detergents.

“I was a lot more aware of my stressors in my job and relationships. How I perceive stress is something that I can control,” said Cassie Johnson. 

She adds, “I do meditation, yoga, journaling, and reading, taking time for myself. Deep belly breathing triggers the parasympathetic nervous system, so it helps you to relax, and helps cortisol to decrease.”

Regular Habits

Cassie Johnson says journaling is best to do in the morning before your brain starts running and your thoughts go all over the place. As for meditation, she recommends setting a time for 5 to 10 minutes. Start with four deep breaths.

“I do four seconds of inhaling with your belly, hold for seven seconds and then eight seconds out. Do it four times. Then go into a more natural breath,” Cassie Johnson said. 

She adds, “I recently started setting intentions before meditation. So, I have been noticing that ability to problem solve. I haven’t meditated on supplements, but I have meditated on what kind of balance am I seeking here. Like what her body needs right now and try to understand its cues. Mediation has helped me with the ability to eat intuitively.” 

Holistic Hustlers FB Group

Cassie Johnson’s Facebook group is all about healing your relationship. She also offers training on a weekly basis. The practice explores your emotional side as well. It’s a community for women who have suffered eating disorder or sick of diets, confused on how and what to eat. Ultimately, Cassie Johnson advocates healing with food and finding nourishment beyond the plate as well.

“Whatever health issue that you are struggling with, no matter how lost you feel, and you have no clue on what’s going on with your body, and you’re taking steps to heal it, just keep going,” said Cassie Johnson. 

She adds, “Because your body can get itself well by itself. And it’s super powerful. It’s just about you taking the time to tune in to slow down and to listen to what it needs, follow through and get it what it needs.”


Cassie Johnson is 23 years old from San Antonio, TX. She is an Integrative Nutrition Health Coach helping women who are sick of diets to develop a better relationship with food and find nourishment beyond the plate. She is incredibly passionate about health and wellness and loves sharing holistic health with the world.

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Eric Thorton And Ashley James

Our soul’s spiritual healing is a significant component of health.  Time and time again, we have stressed that optimal health is never only physical but rather mental, emotional and spiritual. My guest who will explain all about our soul’s spiritual healing is none other than Spiritual Healer, Medium, Animal Communicator, Medical Intuitive, Eternal Psychologist, Author, and Natural Born Exorcist Eric Thorton.

Discovering His Gifts

Eric Thorton grew up with people telling him his gifts are “on.” To them, he was a Master, referring to his innate ability like spiritual healing. He was born with the ability to see, hear, experience, communicate with things that are beyond human sight.

“We all see things at the corner of our eyes. And we see a flash, but there’s nothing there,” said Eric Thorton. “I get to feel it right in front of me. But I learned at a young age not to talk about these things. Because people didn’t want to hear it.”

When Eric Thorton would see a physical problem, he gets information primarily on anything he concentrates on. As he got older, Eric Thorton went into construction and used his gift on his work.

Physical Experience

When his brother got the flu, Eric Thorton would feel his flu and get the flu. His brother, on the other hand, would feel better. Because of that, people thought that Eric Thorton was sickly when in fact, he absorbed his brother’s illness.

“I’d resist the healing energy and cause heat in the palm of the hand and bottoms of feet. And then because you are resisting, your pancreas drains all your blood sugar, and you get this pain in your side,” explains Eric Thorton. 

He adds, “I keep my hands and feet covered. And I get these dark red marks till they turn brown. I kept my hands to myself and didn’t share it with anybody.” 

Brother’s Illness

When Eric Thorton was ten, his 12-year-old brother had terminal cancer. A day before surgery, Sister Denise who was a friend of his mom, came to the hospital. She knew Eric Thorton was a healer and could do spiritual healing.

Sister Denise told Eric Thorton to put his hand on his brother and join them in prayer. His brother went into surgery the next day, and the cancer was gone!

“I started healing 30 years later when Sister Denise got me into this full-time. People feel odd around it, and they will feel special things. It’s an ongoing thing throughout my life. I can turn it off so to speak now. It can be overwhelming,” Eric Thorton said. 

Healing A Friend

Eric Thorton had a client from his construction business who was dying from cancer. He was a psychiatrist. His wife called Eric Thorton one day, to tell him her husband was in the hospital to die, and she was asking for a healer with spiritual healing capabilities.

After a little prodding, Eric Thorton went with Sister Denise, and upon putting his hand over his client, Eric Thorton felt this tremendous energy come over himself. The whole process took an hour and drained Eric Thorton physically. His client had a demon inside of him which was making him sick.

Eric Thorton believes the demon probably got into his son who was three to four years old. His son had instant pneumonia when Eric Thorton went home from the hospital. They prayed and went to the hospital where his son was diagnosed with double pneumonia. The next day, his son got better.


Eric Thorton soon realized that if he was to help people, he can’t get sick. He had gifts. However, no books were written about people like him.

“Gift of faith, not in a church, but in what you are experiencing. Gift of command, the gift of second sight, second knowledge, and hearing,” said Eric Thorton. 

He added, “We are souls, and our body is temporary. But we have a soul experience. It is experiencing growth and other beings. I’ve learned that’s what we are. We identify with the body. And we identify with the body; we get things like allopathic medicine.” 

But Eric Thorton also says allopathic medicine is not good at the difficult things or the things that get us ill. So, he is forced to listen to the guides, angels and other beings about what is going on with the individual and why they have the illness.

An Exorcist

Eric Thorton explains an exorcist removes energy. It can have a life of its own, or it can be in another being’s life. It can be dramatic, but most of it isn’t. He learned over the years that we label different types of energy and beings. And labeling makes it more difficult to come to a neutral state in the energetic field.

“I’m constantly learning new types of energy like though forms. Thought forms can appear,” reveals Eric Thorton. “People can see them as a being or in the more intense as someone thinks of something, the thicker that energy gets. It can control the behavior of people that contribute or part of that culture. And it tells you when you are within the culture and when you are leaving that culture.”

So, with people who have cancer, people like Eric Thorton disconnects them from their thought forms. They see some positivity.  Through the years Eric Thorton also learned what questions to ask and raise the questions. He looks at where the symptoms come from.

Spiritual Healing and Energy

To understand spiritual healing, we must first know that we are spiritual beings having a physical experience. The energy is where everything we do affect us. Everything is in everything we do. Every intention, every thought and it affects our mental, spiritual and physical health. 

“I work with a lot of doctors. We can clarify what’s blocking. What I learned through the years is that like energy comes together. The power of positive thinking is amazing,” said Eric Thorton. “And the power of negative thinking hits us first. It comes from a past life; it comes from this life, it comes from attitude we get from childhood. We all experience it.”

Understanding Anger

Angry people don’t hang out with people who are not angry. Eric Thorton says, on the other hand, positive people don’t want to hang out with someone who is negative.

“Angry people draw angry situations to them. They draw angry words, behavior, actions, and angry entities. And it is designed that way to make us grow,” Eric Thorton explains. 

He adds, “Anger is a primary emotion. Our primary emotion is safety. Everything relates to safety. Even getting married or falling in love relates to safety. Because we do things better in numbers.”

Understanding Emotions

According to Eric Thorton, secondary emotion is things borne out of frustration. Frustration and love have to do with you being safe. While anger comes when you are frustrated, unheard and unrecognized, that’s why he says anger is a tertiary emotion. It’s a reaction to a reaction.

“A soul doesn’t have emotions. The soul could learn emotions, and the soul looks at anger as amazing. It’s an opportunity for growth,” said Eric Thorton. “So, we look at anger, negative emotion, and positive emotion as an opportunity.”

And Eric Thorton adds that if we all look into opportunity, we won’t try to get away from it. We wouldn’t deny it. But we would go through with the emotion. So, he advises looking at every emotion as an opportunity. Anger turns into positive searching. In the same way, that frustration is an opportunity for conversation.

Room For Growth

Eric Thorton looks at entities as something to learn from, grow from and then it can be removed from the energy field. He believes that if it is commanded out of someone’s energy, you do not hear anything.

“You’re still leaving that negativity in that person. And that energy will come back and fill the space. That’s why a typical exorcism is so difficult,” Eric Thorton said. 

When Eric Thorton was growing up, he got to see the psychology of what he was seeing energetically and watch it unfold physically. Then he started learning about this balance between spiritual energy and physical. Eric Thorton then began to understand what was going on. And that works with animals as well.

“We grow from our past life. And we bring that into this life in the form of things that we’re good at and things that we have fears of. So, we bring those things forward. Our past life gives us most of our innate abilities. Most of it is positive,” said Eric Thorton. 

Making a ChiBall

Eric Thorton says making a ChiBall is mostly intention. Just do it. You experience it in your body; you have a reaction and channel that through the third chakra.

“It comes out and creates this massive energy in front of you. Put your hands above your belly button,” Eric Thorton said. “Start thinking, and you can push at this space, so your hands are split apart. And you push together as you’re pushing this opportunity. You can feel resistance.”

Feeling Your Way Through

For the sake of the energy exchange, Eric Thorton says you don’t have to go through that extent. But it’s good practice to that extent, to start feeling it. And realize that something is happening here. Everybody can feel it.

“Medicine men and women don’t participate in the drama of their clients. They have compassionate detachment, so they can have a way more compassion,” Eric Thorton said. “If you have compassion attachment, your body gets overwhelmed, and you get sick.” 

He adds, “But if you have compassion detachment, compassion is wonderful. You get to help people without being harmed in the short run or the long run.”


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As a Spiritual Healer, Psychic, Medium and Exorcist, and animal talk and healer, Eric Thorton has found a profound new avenue to achieve physical, emotional and spiritual healing for you and your pets. He has accomplished this by combining the gifts of healing with those of the psychic, medium and exorcist.  

Eric Thorton’s unique abilities are now available to others for both therapeutic and healing processes, in person in the Seattle area and remote sessions anywhere on the planet. 

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Dr. Anna Cabeca and Ashley James

The Hormone Fix book is an excellent resource for those who want to learn to balance their hormones. Men need it as well, but for this episode, we’ll dive into the contents of The Hormone Fix by focusing on women. No less than the author of The Hormone Fix, Dr. Anna Cabeca, is going to cover all that in this episode.

Tumultuous Journey

At the young age of 16, Dr. Anna Cabeca saw her then 52-year old mother has diabetes. She had cardiac bypass surgery after being diabetic for 15 years. Her mom passed away when Dr. Anna Cabeca was 29. That time in her life motivated her to research, and eventually, Dr. Anna Cabeca became a women’s health advocate.

Dr. Anna Cabeca soon fell in love with functional medicine. From college, she researched a lot and went to osteopathic medical school. At 38, Dr. Anna Cabeca struggled with her health. She was diagnosed with premature ovarian failure and early menopause.

Another Child

During her health crisis, Dr. Anna Cabeca was told she would never have another child, and that was devastating. She was on the road to diabetes. But when Dr. Anna Cabeca went on a healing journey around the world, she found natural solutions.

Eventually, Dr. Anna Cabeca recovered became pregnant and delivered her youngest child at 41 years old. From her experience, Dr. Anna Cabeca realized that for one to gain health back, it’s 90% lifestyle and nutrition.


When Dr. Anna Cabeca became well enough, she wanted to empower women naturally via a hormone fix through natural supplements and hormones to heal their body.

Dr. Anna Cabeca recalled the time when she was diagnosed with her health issues and told that it’s unlikely to be irreversible as well as infertile. That time, someone advised her to take Maca.

Maca grows above 11,000 feet in Peru. It contains a type of protein that is not found in any other plant. And Maca is an alkalinizing cruciferous vegetable and also good for breast health.

“Maca is rich in arginine. Arginine increases nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is exactly how Viagra works. It increases blood flow. It’s a fascinating root,” said Dr. Anna Cabeca. 

But because Dr. Anna Cabeca hated the taste of Maca, she made some taste combinations like adding fruit or greens. Maca is an adrenal adaptogen. And so Dr. Anna Cabeca added some adaptogenic components like turmeric to her formula.  Hence, her product Mightly Maca was born.

Role Of Cortisol

Dr. Anna Cabeca went from breastfeeding to completely never having a drop of breast milk after her health trauma. If she intellectualized the physiology of her experience, she says she can recognize complete neuroendocrine access system breakdown. And it’s what people experience with PTSD.

“And to a certain level, adverse childhood experiences. These tend to rear their ugly little head in the perimenopause period when our neuroprotective hormones such as progesterone are dropping,” Dr. Anna Cabeca said.

When we are under stress, we get an outpouring of cortisol. So, our adrenal glands predominantly produce our cortisol. When cortisol goes up, our hormone oxytocin goes down eventually.

And when cortisol is going up, progesterone levels are going down. Furthermore, progesterone starts to decline in our mid-30s. It is also the precursor to the production of cortisol.

“When cortisol is being poured out, that’s your fight or flight responder. It’s the natural rescue hormone. So, we need it in times of crisis. It keeps us on higher alert, but it burns out our system over the long haul,” explains Dr. Anna Cabeca.

She adds, “Everything you do that brings you joy increases oxytocin. It puts cortisol back in balance. Like sex, intimacy, orgasm, laughing, dancing, and hugs. Oxytocin is also the anti-aging hormone.”

Causes of Low Progesterone

Dr. Anna Cabeca says that if you have low progesterone, we experience estrogen dominance. Symptoms include PMS, hot flashes, irregular period, and irritability. We can get this experience of estrogen dominance because we have so many estrogen disruptors.

“We need to do two things when we have low progesterone. First, clear out the excess estrogen. Then empower our body to have a healthy balance of progesterone naturally,” Dr. Anna Cabeca said. “We experience low progesterone naturally just with aging. When our ovarian function declines in our 30s, it also happens because of stress and toxins.”

She adds, “Difficulty sleeping, irritability, waking up in the middle of the night, and PMS are also associated with low progesterone.”

Effects of Sugar

Regarding detoxification, Dr. Anna Cabeca believes it’s about improving nutrition in our diet. We can do this by removing toxins from our body, from alcohol, sugars, preservatives, artificial sweeteners, and even chemicals in our skin care products.

“Sugar increases blood glucose, and that’s going to increase our insulin which can further disrupt progesterone and other hormones,” said Dr. Anna Cabeca. “I’m a fan of getting our body into ketosis so having intermittent fasting, having very low carbohydrates. But healthy low carbs, leafy greens, cruciferous veggie are my carbs of choice.”

Dr. Anna Cabeca also advises eliminating many fruits we eat. Because fruit is sugar, too. We need a steady state blood sugar control. And the more glucose, the more insulin in the body, that’s where some people start to suffer from hypoglycemia and low blood sugar reaction.

Hormone Fix

Women generally in need of a hormone fix are confused about what’s happening to our body and are just in a state of confusion pre-menopause. Moods are all over the place. Hence, Dr. Anna Cabeca says this clarity is getting into the keto green state, heightens awareness. That is the state you don’t want to leave.

On the other hand, when women have fatty liver disease, one of the best types of hormone fix that we can do is intermittent fasting. Dr. Anna Cabeca advises giving your body time to rest and restore. But approach getting alkaline. Start checking urinary PH to get alkaline. And support phase one and phase two liver detox.

Doing a Detox

When we have elevated liver enzymes, Dr. Anna Cabeca says we have to support this detox process. Many people are aware of methylation. And we need to support methylation.

“Because that’s one way our body takes toxic compounds and makes them less toxic. So that they can be removed safely from our body,” Dr. Anna Cabeca said. “Dark leafy veggies, cruciferous veggies, eggs, healthy proteins, and fats can help that process. Supplementation also helps.”

Going Deeper

One product Dr. Anna Cabeca recommends for women with gallbladder disease, or those who had their gallbladder removed is LV-GB complex. A company called Designs for Health produces it.

Another key to gaining optimal health is making sure you get an excellent laboratory to administer your tests. Lab tests dig deeper. Look for essential lab markers like your vitamin D level.


The DHEA hormone in men and women spike in our 20s. Then it goes downhill from there. But the healthier optimal number for women is over 100 and 200. For men, it should ideally be over 300. It depends on your lab results.

Urinary PH and ketone testing are also important because we see how our lifestyle affects us. The hot flashes eventually go away, but many women suffer for five to ten years.

“Insulin resistance is one of the reasons why women suffer. My program helps eliminate it. But vaginal dryness continues as well as loss of lubrication, discomfort, and urinary leaking,” said Dr. Anna Cabeca.

She adds, “So that’s where I add in DHEA and natural moisturizer in a topical form. I created Julva, anti-aging topical cream for the vulva. Plant stem cells also add to the anti-aging benefits.”

Progesterone and Estrogen

According to Dr. Anna Cabeca, progesterone as we age, when we’re ovulating, should ideally be around above 10 or 20. It declines in the mid-30s. For 70 to 80-year-olds, she recommends using bioidentical topical progesterone cream as a hormone fix.  Ultimately, there are a lot of factors why our hormones are not balanced. That’s why we need hormone replacements.

“Testosterone levels should also be in check. If a woman is post-menopausal, I avoid oral hormones especially oral estrogens. For those over 56 years old, I get them on oral estrogens to a transdermal estrogen, which is a topical estrogen formulation,” Dr. Anna Cabeca said.

She adds, “Estrogen is important for brain health. It is important for hormone receptor status and balance with progesterone. Transdermal estrogen is safer than oral estrogen especially over the age of 56.”

Typical Meal

Dr. Anna Cabeca shares that a great example of a keto green breakfast is smoked salmon with capers, tomatoes, onions with steamed spinach. And drizzle it olive oil. It’s less than five grams of carbs and keeps blood sugar healthy for five hours or so.

For lunch, Dr. Anna Cabeca likes a salad based on arugula, cilantro, and mint. Then add curry chicken salad on top of it. It’s chunk chicken with mayo, extra olive oil with turmeric or curry seasoning, and cut onions with sprouts. Then drizzle with olive oil and olive oil vinaigrette.

An ideal dinner would be bone broth. Dr. Anna Cabeca usually has a tabouli salad with lots of parsley. You could also use cauliflower rice, but Dr. Anna Cabeca likes using broccoli sprouts for that extra crunch. Then add some cut tomatoes and onions with lemon juice, olive oil, and some dressing.

Dealing With Cravings

Dr. Anna Cabeca says when it comes to cravings, physiology drives behavior. It’s about willpower and physiological factors. We have to empower our physiology to improve our willpower. To enable yourself to say yes when you need to and no when you don’t.

“Start the morning doing the right steps. Do it by working with digestive juices in the morning. Start with healthy fats. And fast between 12 to 15 hours,” advises Dr. Anna Cabeca.

As for chocolate cravings, opt for dark chocolate. But periodically detox from sweeteners. Instead of stevia, Dr. Anna Cabeca suggests trying vanilla extract. Then blend with cinnamon.

Weight Struggles

Dr. Anna Cabeca is no different from most of us. She also struggled with weight her entire life. And she struggled with cravings. She realizes that part of that was due to food sensitivity.

She knew keto was good for weight loss. There are even studies that show improved ketone secretion in the combination of adding alkaline components in the animal study model.

Dr. Anna Cabeca also believes that there’s also a spiritual clarity that comes with fasting. That’s what we can also experience doing this keto green lifestyle.

“No matter what you are doing, there’s hope. The more we take care of ourselves, better care we can take of everyone else. Put yourself on your priority list,” said Dr. Anna Cabeca.


Dr. Anna Cabeca, an Emory University trained gynecologist and women’s health expert was diagnosed with early menopause at age 38 y.o. Devastated she went around the world looking for answers and healing and found it. She is now a triple board-certified, menopause and hormone expert. She is internationally acclaimed for her work in gynecology and obstetrics, integrative medicine, and anti-aging and regenerative medicine. 

Dr. Anna Cabeca has changed the lives of thousands of women across the globe, connecting to others through humor, honesty, and passion. Her book “The Hormone Fix” and other empowering transformation programs have helped women of all ages become their best selves again. Her successful line of all-natural products features the alkaline superfoods drink Mighty Maca® PLUS and the rejuvenating vulvar cream Julva®. 

Recently, Dr. Anna Cabeca was named “2018 Innovator of the Year” by Mindshare Collaborative, the premier community for health and wellness influencers and entrepreneurs. In 2017, the Age Management Medicine Group presented her the prestigious Alan P. Mintz Award for Clinical Excellence.

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Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo and Ashley James

Have you heard of the 5-Day Healthy Keto Challenge? I’m sure many of you have listened to the benefits of doing a ketogenic diet. But if it is not done right, your health will suffer more. If you’re interested in doing ketogenic diet the right way, then this 5-Day Healthy Keto Challenge episode is definitely for you. Listen in to my guest, Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo, who will show you how to do it right.

Before we get started, let’s kick off the topic with an announcement. Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo is giving out a free 5-Day Healthy Keto Challenge via her Facebook group. Cool prizes like US$ 25 Amazon gift card and a free Body Balance class worth $2,000 is up for grabs.


Before getting into the 5-Day Healthy Keto Challenge, you first have to understand what ketosis is. Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo says ketosis is not for everybody. It’s a matter of knowing how your body is processing carbohydrates.

“I saw so many people teaching keto, and I just cringe when I see pictures of what people are eating,” said Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo. 

She added, “So, I decided to do a healthy keto diet for people to reap the benefits of ketosis. And do it in a healthy, plant-based way. People usually end up getting thyroid issues from any diet intervention.”

Ketogenic Diet

Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo says a ketogenic diet is typically done with tons of oil, not whole foods plant-based fats, not whole foods fats. Mostly, we need to provide the macro and micronutrients that the thyroid needs.

“I also don’t believe that a ketogenic diet is necessarily meant for long-term use. Ultimately, it’s a case to case basis depending on the person’s health. The traditional way it’s done is so devoid in food that is good for us,” Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo said. 

How Ketosis Works

We have fuel that the body needs to burn for energy. And all the cells need energy. Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo says we also need energy for cellular metabolism and taking in nutrients. So, we have a choice between fats or sugar.

“When we rely on sugar for fuel, we get hungry between meals. But when you rely on fat for fuel, the fat doesn’t get converted to sugar. It is burned in the form of ketone bodies which is a byproduct of fat,” explains Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo.

Even if you’re not eating anything at all, Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo says most of us have extra stores of fat. We got a thousand calories at most of the extra glycogen which is the storage starch sugar form. So, we have enough fat on our bodies to last for weeks or months.

“The body gets efficient, and it’s not constantly hungry. That’s why so many people are doing it for the weight loss. It is also fuel for the brain and helps your memory, focus, repairs the brain, and calms the nervous system,” Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo reveals.

But Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo also says we should make sure a health practitioner helps monitor us. Because if you do it wrong, most people end up taking in too much protein, because ketogenic is not a high-protein diet but rather a high-fat diet.

Decreasing Inflammation

By design, a ketogenic diet does not have grains in it. And according to Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo, it doesn’t have gluten and soy. Dairy is usually not there because it is high in sugar.

“Grains sometime irritate the gut, leading to leaky gut. When ketogenic diet is done properly, and we’re doing it with anti-inflammatory fats and anti-oxidants, we get the best of both worlds,” said Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo.

Recommended Diet

Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo recommends eating highly-pigmented vegetables and fruits. Loaded with vitamins and minerals, it is nutrient-dense and low calorie.

“Generally, nutrient-dense foods are deficient in one thing—calories. So, you need to add to those nutrient-dense foods. Foods that are calorie-rich but also contain nutrients,” Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo said. 

Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo also recommends salads and non-starchy veggies with good fats, avocados, olives, coconut, nuts, and seeds. She says that when you heat oils, you create oxidated byproducts.

Different oils have the varying extent to which the damage happens. Because oxidated byproducts have free radicals damage to the cells. And that’s what we should avoid.

Effects On Gallbladder

When we eat a lot of fat, we’re putting a lot of demand in the gallbladder to produce and release bile to help with the digestion. Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo says people who have had their gallbladder removed should be cautious before going on a ketogenic diet.

“Fat burns cleaner in the brain than sugar. It doesn’t have as many byproducts in the brain unlike sugar,” said Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo. 

She adds, “Some studies have linked people with Alzheimer’s disease who had an excess of sugar and insulin throughout their lives. Insulin is a fat storage hormone that has a lot of negative effects.”

Finding Your Sweet Spot

There are a lot of tools to keep your blood sugar in check. One is the glucometer where it will instantly show what your blood sugar level is. The ketone meter, on the other hand, is used to test blood levels of beta-hydroxybutyrate, a ketone that your body produces when in ketosis.

You can also get a urine test or have a lab do your bloodwork. This way, you can monitor what foods you eat as well as your stress levels and sleep patterns. From there, you can modify to keep yourself in an ideal range. It’s not about the diet but the lifestyle. Doing tests teaches you how to take control of your life.

The Sweet Spot Solution

Sweet Spot 30-Day Metabolic Reset Kit contains the shortcut plan for you to follow for 30 days to jumpstart you back into balance. Most common health challenges can be traced back to insulin resistance or pre-insulin resistance — a condition that most medical professionals wouldn’t catch until it became full-blown Metabolic Syndrome or Diabetes and after a lot of damage had been done.

The Sweet Spot Solution is not a cleanse or a deprivation diet. It’s an easy-to-follow program that includes 30 days’ worth of recipes, menu plans, and checklists that make it quick and easy to create delicious, filling waist-trimming meals.

As soon as you register, you’ll be sent to a web page that includes MP4 videos, MP3 audios and PDF documents. Everything you need is laid out in a thoughtful format on one easy to access page.

Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo says you will witness a dramatic change in your blood sugar and insulin resistance. You’ll reverse damage to your insulin receptors and even improve their function.

Healthy Levels of Glucose

According to Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo, somewhere in the 70s or low 80s is an ideal glucose level. Although lower than 70 is still fine. A lot of people who eat more towards ketogenic, their blood sugar gets lower.

If you feel awful and your blood sugar is below 60, you should also identify what is metabolically out of balance. Maybe you are toxic and need to work on your liver. It can also be the lack of nutrients to keep blood sugar steady. It varies from person to person.

Causes of Insulin Resistance

One cause is low levels of micronutrients. Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo says the majority is because of continually being in a state of hyper insulin and high blood sugar for so long. We have to dig deeper.

“The cells on the outside that are supposed to pick up insulin and glucose and to take them into the cell to use them to make energy, get damaged. They get damaged due to chemicals, inflammatory chemicals, toxins, oxidized fats,” said Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo. 

She adds, “Or they could be damaged by high levels of insulin over a long period. When you expose a cell to too much of something, it creates defenses. High levels of a ketogenic diet possibly affect thyroid function and receptors as well.” 

Importance of Sleep

Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo also says people who are training and working muscles may get away with a little more sugar in their diet than the average person. Lack of sleep probably has some inflammatory mediators.

Things that don’t get cleaned up during a good night’s sleep affect the cells and increase insulin resistance. Even a healthy person can have a temporary insulin resistance the day after a bad night’s sleep.

Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo likewise believes that the standard American diet and lifestyle for processed foods, lots of oxidized fats and chemicals in the environment affect insulin resistance.

Why Keto Diet Balances Hormones

All the stored hormones come from fat. All the stored hormones come from cholesterol. And if we are too deficient in fat, we don’t have the building blocks to make those hormones.

“My Healthy Keto Diet is good for people whose weight has plateaued. Not everybody has to be vegetarian or vegan to do this diet. But it can be a hundred percent. This diet is also good for people who want a healthier way to eat,” said Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo. 

She adds, “People with inflammatory joint and other diseases get better because the diet takes out irritants. Ultimately, get a health practitioner to guide you through the diet.”

Typical Day

Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo usually doesn’t eat her first meal before lunchtime. She starts her day with a green smoothie.  And she usually has avocadoes or hemp seeds, walnuts, coconut meat, coconut yogurt or some fermented food.

For those who want more recipe ideas, check out Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo’s Hormone Hacking Breakfast Menus on her website. It gives you an idea of what the first meal of the day should consist of.

“I space my meals four hours apart. Lunch can be a wrap instead of bread or a nori wrap. There are some nice slices of bread and crackers that make nice sandwiches. Soups are also good,” suggests Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo. “Dinner can be a stir fry like stuffed peppers. I also use a lot of sauerkraut, yogurt, and kimchi. Feeding your microbiome with fermented food is good.”

Damage from High Sugar

Your red blood cells are covered with sugar. Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo explains that people who have high levels of sugar over time, they are damaging the blood vessels and nerve supply in the feet and fingers.

That’s why a lot of persons end up with amputations. It also damages parts of the kidney. One of the common causes of kidney disease is uncontrolled high blood sugar. It does the same thing in the retina of the eyes.

“Insulin is a little bit different. High levels of insulin stiffen the blood vessels. Which in turn, causes hypertension,” said Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo. “If you are in a state where there has been a lot of insulin and damage to those vessels, they are much stiffer. And they don’t respond the same way. That can cause sudden heart attacks and stroke.” 

The 5-Day Healthy Keto Challenge

The 5-Day Healthy Keto Challenge was developed as a strategy that would help kids with epilepsy. Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo says it was not intended for healthy people to do it long term. And it has not been tested long-term.

“I do know that you want to be measuring, you want to be looking into bloodwork, you want to be sure it is not throwing you into an unhealthy state,” said Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo.

It’s a case by case basis. So, it’s important to listen to your body and get some guidance from a health practitioner before going into The 5-Day Healthy Keto Challenge.

Other Programs

Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo’s website has so many services and programs that can add to your knowledge about nutrition. They have the Institute of Nutritional Endocrinology and a couple of shorter programs.

One short program is about insulin resistance, so you become a certified insulin resistance coach. They also have a full certification program on nutritional endocrinology. It has sections on functional assessment mastering and functional nutrition mastering. Looking at psychological issues, body system, and lifestyle pieces is likewise part of the program.

“Don’t take this lightly. This is your health. You get this one body. Enjoy it, take care of it while you’re here. Do the best you can. Because nothing tastes as good as healthy feels,” said Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo.

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Dr. Alan Christianson and Ashley James

To heal your thyroid holistically is not as complicated as it seems. There have also been numerous opinions on whether iodine is good or bad for our health in the long run. To enlighten us about how to heal your thyroid holistically and other health issues linked to our thyroid, I’m so happy to have Dr. Alan Christianson back on the show.

Dr. Alan Christianson has helped so many people over the years addressing thyroid and adrenal issues. A significant component of how to holistically heal your thyroid is through the right diet. That’s why Dr. Alan Christianson wrote the book, The Metabolism Reset Diet, which is launching on January 29.

Thyroid Health

Dr. Alan Christianson says thyroid health does affect a lot of systems in the body. Especially brain development on kids. And to date, he says it’s been estimated that there’s a lot of billion people on planet earth who didn’t get the brain function they deserve because they lacked iodine as they grew up.

And whenever the topic is about how to heal your thyroid holistically, iodine often comes up.  For those who are unaware, iodine is one of the first elements that is ever isolated. The name itself comes from the violet color the element has.

“The thyroid medication contains active thyroid hormones. And they are built from iodine. And getting too much can seem a lot like too little regarding how it affects the body,” explains Dr. Alan Christianson. 

He adds, “The amount that you need is about a hundredfold of what you find in the bloodstream. So, the bloodstream concentrates iodine. And the concentrator is important because it’s a nutrient that you wouldn’t get on a consistent basis. But the pitfall about that concentrator is that if we get a lot of it, we shut down the factory.”

Too Much or Too Little Iodine?

Before you embark on the journey of how to heal your thyroid holistically, there’s a lot of tests available in the market to aid you in finding the best solution. There are spot urine tests, which means random samples of urine is analyzed.

Dr. Alan Christianson also shares that there are the 24-hour urine test and a recent thing called iodine challenge test. The iodine challenge test is where you take a big dose and see how much you excrete in the time afterward.

“A lot of those tests are decent to gauge how much iodine a population has. So, if you were to go to Central Africa and screen a thousand people with spot urinary iodine test, you get a good hunch,” said Dr. Alan Christianson. “But because there is so much variation in any one person’s random urine sample, you have to test thoroughly.”   

He adds, “Some of the best tests would only require about 200 tests for one person to have 90% of accuracy. So, there are no good tests, but thankfully there’s also no known human diversity regarding iodine absorption or excretion.”

Diet Choices

To heal your thyroid holistically, diet is a critical component. Dr. Alan Christianson reveals that one population can be at risk for getting low iodine if their food is more stringent and that’s pregnant women. And with the healthy intake of seafood and a good variety of produce in the diet, it’s easy not to become deficient.

The other group that can be at risk are raw food vegans who don’t use any iodine-fortified salt. Dr. Alan Christianson likes sea salt for general use because this way, you get some magnesium. So, if someone was consuming no animal products and especially just raw foods, they can get low iodine.

“Sea vegetables are rich in iodine. Most forms of sea vegetables have enough to be useful but not enough to throw your way out of the ballpark,” said Dr. Alan Christianson. “Kelp helps a lot. Tiny amounts could be useful. Nori has pretty reasonable amounts of iodine.”

Dr. Alan Christianson also mentioned that by adding iodized salt to food, people could get reasonable amounts. He also said that pretty much all multi-vitamins will have between a hundred or two hundred micrograms.

Too Much Iodine While On Medication

Dr. Alan Christianson explains that if someone is between their supplements, their diet, and medication, it creates more overall resistance to thyroid hormones in their body. So, the amounts that we need regarding thyroid and iodine are a small quantity, like one to two hundred micrograms or a tenth of a grain of salt.

“Some studies show that megadose iodine is an effective treatment for fibrocystic breast disease. We have to think through side effects, and thyroid complication as whether or not is it worth it overall,” said Dr. Alan Christianson.

Hashimoto’s Disease

A Japanese physician discovered Hashimoto’s because the Japanese have the highest rates of autoimmune thyroid disease and thyroid cancer. According to Dr. Alan Christianson, they also have the world’s highest iodine intake.

In the U.S., Dr. Alan Christianson reveals that we have a lot of goiter cases especially in a lot of great lakes and areas where there is a lot of fresh water. But we didn’t have autoimmune thyroid disease.

“The thing with Hashimoto’s as an autoimmune disease, if you don’t see it then you don’t know that it’s not there,” Dr. Alan Christianson said. “So, people have hypothyroidism, and sometimes the doctor may test for thyroid antibodies. Half the time, the thyroid antibodies are negative.” 

He adds, “But people who have Hashimoto’s disease, half the time their thyroid antibodies never show up. So, there are few cases of hypothyroidism that are not autoimmune.”

Graves’ Disease

Graves’ disease, on the other hand, is also known as toxic diffuse goiter. It is an autoimmune disease that affects the thyroid. Based on numerous case studies, it often results in and is the most common cause of hyperthyroidism. Apart from that, it frequently results in an enlarged thyroid.

“The part about being hyperthyroid perpetuates the autoimmune attack. You may see odd things that may not be helpful but seems to be effective for one person,” Dr. Alan Christianson explains. “And with more appropriate treatment, in pulling someone out of hyperthyroidism and getting iodine right, many can heal and stay stable again.” 

He adds, “It’s not about the pill. The question is always can I be vital and happy and thriving again. So, focus on that one. It’s really about how you’re going to feel and function.”

Advocating For Ourselves

Dr. Alan Christianson says the patient’s well-being is most important. But thyroid levels also affect health in ways that you wouldn’t know based on symptoms alone. Your TSH signal, for example, that’s a growth signal to the thyroid. And it can be a growth signal for something connected with health issues like heart disease and diabetes.

“So, it’s important to monitor our thyroid levels annually, to make sure we’re not getting too much or too little. Cancer that’s growing the fastest among women is thyroid cancer. The rates have gone up since the end of the 90s. It has gone up three-fold,” shares Dr. Alan Christianson.

Dr. Alan Christianson also believes that people with thyroid disease should have a minimum of a baseline ultrasound when the thyroid is down. The American College of Gynecology, in fact, recommends self-neck checks on a monthly basis as part of wanting to heal the thyroid holistically.

Nutrient Deficiencies

Dr. Alan Christianson stressed that selenium is essential for all things thyroid. Those who are low in selenium are more likely to have an iodine deficiency and vice versa.

“So, it’s most important to get a screen for your TSH and your thyroid antibodies. And it’s important to know not just what’s normal but what should optimal look like,” said Dr. Alan Christianson. “There’s a certain amount of thyroid antibodies that are considered perfectly fine.”

Other Measures

Dr. Alan Christianson says the number of people who have thyroid problems is much higher than people who have perfect thyroid function. And when you look at the healthiest populations, their average scores of T4 and T3 pretty much are the average scores in the blood test. T3 and T4 are highly regulated by the body, and they only reflect the state when the body is off by extremes.

On the other hand, T2 is not measurable. Dr. Alan Christianson says healthy people have reasonable amounts of that. People who are on thyroid treatment that does not include T2, tend to be lacking in it. He also said that T2 by itself seems to have the most significant roles to play in metabolic rates, and also would regulate ovarian function.

Truth About Cortisol

There have also been references wherein popularized the idea of how the adrenals are unable to produce cortisol. Dr. Alan Christianson mentions that there’s a disease called Addison’s disease. He went on to say that at a surface look, someone with Addison’s disease could have very similar cortisol levels to another.

“If you assume the problem is low cortisol, somebody is likely to think of giving more cortisol. And a lot of cases like that where someone is giving you a lot of cortisol at your worst, you might feel a lot better short-term,” said Dr. Alan Christianson. “But you can also measure the brain talking to the adrenals, in the same way, the brain talks to the thyroid.”

And the difference between Addison’s disease and adrenal fatigue is that in adrenal fatigue, the brain is telling you to slow down. That’s why Dr. Alan Christianson believes that prognosis can differ from person to person.

Hence, in wanting to heal your thyroid holistically, one has to do the research apart from finding an excellent practitioner who is knowledgeable. Ultimately, it’s about how to become a self-advocate for your health.

“Stay active with their work and hold on to it. You can radically transform the quality of your life by doing the right things with your lifestyle. Don’t give up on having that vision come through for you,” said Dr. Alan Christianson.


Dr. Alan Christianson is a Naturopathic Endocrinologist who focuses on Thyroid function, adrenal health, and metabolism. 

Dr. Alan Christianson has been actively practicing in Scottsdale since 1996 and is the founding physician behind Integrative Health. He is a NY Times bestselling author whose books include The Metabolism Reset Diet, The Adrenal Reset Diet, and the Complete Idiot’s Guide to Thyroid Disease. 

Dr. Alan Christianson regularly appears on national media like Dr. Oz, The Doctors, and The Today Show.

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